Lake Charles area guys step in.

[charlie12]

Anybody had trouble with the DA's office over there? Below is a story from yesterday's American Press on school gun laws.

I guess the ADA didn't read the whole law about the gun being in your car.

I'm going to email him if I can find a address.

http://www.americanpress.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3298&Itemid=105

 

[spanky]

http://www.ldaa.org/roster/das.html

 

[spanky]

I'm going to write the DA and the author of the article. It shouldn't be too hard to point them both in the right direction.

 

[spanky]

It seems a bit disconcerting that a normal citizen must point out an incorrect law citing by an Assistant District Attorney but in this case, I must.
In this case, I am referring to; “He also warned teachers that it is illegal have guns in their cars while on school property because school zones are gun-free zones. ‘The only time you can carry a gun in a gun-free zone is if you need it while performing duties in your job description,’ Druitt said. A teacher would need to get special permission from the School Board.”
I have underlined the appropriate parts;

If you reference RS 14:92.2 (http://www.legis.state.la.us/lss/lss.asp?doc=78741) you will find the following.

§95.2. Carrying a firearm, or dangerous weapon, by a student or nonstudent on school property, at school-sponsored functions or firearm-free zone
C. The provisions of this Section shall not apply to:
(3) Any person having the written permission of the principal.
(5) Any constitutionally protected activity which cannot be regulated by the state, such as a firearm contained entirely within a motor vehicle.

...

 

[Asc.rudeboy]

todays press does no leg work,they take rumors for fact without doing any follow up,,as long as it fits nicely in a story it must be true,,,never mind the fact that no facts are present.....o and if they read it on a web sight by a blogger it must b the end all truth.

 

[charlie12]

I emailed the "reporter" last night and this is what she sent back.

I'm pretty sure her inability to carry a gun in a school zone has something to do with Parish teachers employment contract. There are school districts in Texas and Oklahoma that allow teachers to carry guns on campus and into the building. That is not the case in Louisiana. I don't think I wrote that Louisiana Law said it was illegal to take a gun in a school zone.


Also, the person speaking is not a spokesman for the Sheriff's Office, he is an assistant district attorney who deals mainly with felony prosecutions. And I see how the way it's written can be misleading and I am sorry about that.


Vanessa Deggins
Staff Writer
The American Press
Lake Charles, LA
vdeggins@americanpress.com

 

[LouisianaCarry]

Man, that article was just full of fail.

 

[charlie12]

Man, that article was just full of fail.

I sent you the story on LA carry.

 

[LouisianaCarry]

I sent you the story on LA carry.

Yes, I saw that, thank you.

I am hoping to get some time to send out an alert about a few things, that included, maybe this evening.

 

[charlie12]

I just left a voice mail for Mr. Druitt asking where he got his info on guns in your car on school property. I asked to be called back, I wonder if he will?

 

[LouisianaCarry]

It is more than just that. Most of that article is complete BS.

"When you have a weapon in your car or house, it needs to be secured," Druitt said. "If someone takes it and uses it, you can be held liable."

No such law in LA. Some States have such a law, not LA.

All guns are registered into a national database by their serial numbers.

Complete and total BS.

He also warned teachers that it is illegal have guns in their cars while on school property because school zones are gun-free zones.
"The only time you can carry a gun in a gun-free zone is if you need it while performing duties in your job description," Druitt said. A teacher would need to get special permission from the School Board.

RS 14:95.2 (the school zone carry statute) says that carrying a weapon in school zones is legal for:
(1) A federal, state, or local law enforcement officer in the performance of his official duties.
(2) A school official or employee acting during the normal course of his employment or a student acting under the direction of such school official or employee.
(3) Any person having the written permission of the principal.
(4) The possession of a firearm occurring within one thousand feet of school property and entirely on private property, or entirely within a private residence, or in accordance with a concealed handgun permit issued pursuant to RS 40:1379.1.
(5) Any constitutionally protected activity which cannot be regulated by the state, such as a firearm contained entirely within a motor vehicle.
(6) Any student carrying a firearm to or from a class, in which he is duly enrolled, that requires the use of the firearm in the class.
(7) A student enrolled or participating in an activity requiring the use of a firearm including but not limited to any ROTC function under the authorization of a university.
(8) A student who possesses a firearm in his dormitory room or while going to or from his vehicle or any other person with permission of the administration.

He said revolvers — typically .38 caliber — are best if you are buying a gun for home protection.

You want the largest caliber that you can reliably control, and you want the most ammo capacity that you can train and practice with available.

Granted, topics like these are debatable, but few serious trainers that I know are going to seriouly say that a small caliber is actually preferable, if you are able to shoot a larger one. That sounds like gun store counter "former specops navy seal" beef jerky selling bs to me.

 

[Jimmy Dean]

PArt of an employment contract? I guess that the law that took effect in August means nothing there either huh? :P

And sorry, that law is pretty black and white, not misleading at all, it says what it means and says it pretty damn clearly. It is not against the law to have a gun inside your vehicle in a firearm free zone in LA

 

[spanky]

This is quoted directly from your aticle; " He also warned teachers that it is illegal have guns in their cars while on school property because school zones are gun-free zones." That seems pretty cut & dry to me. That doesn't even insinuate anything about contracts. It is not about clarification, it is about printing of misinformation. An unknowing person could read that article and think they're breaking the law by having a gun in their vehicle in a school zone.

-----Original Message-----
From: Vanessa Deggins [mailto:vdeggins@americanpress.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 9:23 AM
To: Jeremy Jouette
Subject: Re: In reference to article "Gun safety class teaches women laws, practice (10/27)"

I don't recall him saying it is against Louisiana law for teachers to have guns on school property. From what he explained this had something to do with the teacher employee contract. Schools in Texas and Oklahoma allow teachers to have guns and this parish does not want that because there are armed deputies stationed at most middle and high schools.
For further clarification, you can call Mr.Druitt. That is why his number is at the end of the article. But no law was incorrectly cited.

Vanessa

...

 

[mcinfantry]

teacher employment contract CAN prevent them from carrying a gun, just like dominos pizza. you cant be arrested, but you can be fired for its violation

 

[spanky]

teacher employment contract CAN prevent them from carrying a gun, just like dominos pizza. you cant be arrested, but you can be fired for its violation

The article says that it's illegal, not that they can be fired for it.

 

[mcinfantry]

i was only clarifying how the employment contract plays a part, not defending the idiot reporter, or DA

 

[Jimmy Dean]

Um McInfantry, I don't think that you fcan even be fired for it now. That is what I am referancing with the law that took hold in August, an employer cannot fire you for possessing a firearm inside your personal vehicle on company property.

 

[posse comatosis]

Somewhere in the federal code I believe is a law against taking a firearm within 1000 feet of a school, but it remains unenforced on account of being clearly unconstitutional.

 

[jimdana1942]

I know the DA personally and his wonderful family. They are really very good people.

The media, however, leaves much to be desired.

I'll never forget, when I was a Senior Television System tech., working in Beaumont, a video feed came through from a local TV reporter who was at the scene of an I-10 vehicle accident. After delivering her feed to the local CBS affiliate, whe said, "did yall get that okay? I just said there were 2 people injured because I didn't really know". It turned out it was a single vehicle accident with only the driver and he was not injured.

 

[charlie12]

The guys over on Open Carry are talking about too. One guy talked to the ADA and had his comments.

http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/view_topic.php?id=17733&forum_id=26&jump_to=295054#p295054