Horan Knives has a long and storied history of ripping customers off. I keep finding more and more posts on different forums where people have been ripped off and didn't ever get their knife! One guy wrote about having to wait over 18 months and when he ask for a refund he was refused. He never got his knife, there was a time when Horan was producing good products but Tim is very lazy and unorganized but he has no problem taking peoples money. It's sad when you see something with talent waste it because they can't handle being an adult! Please share your stories in hopes of preventing more people from becoming victims!