Glock 17 & 19 MOS

noob · Feb 5, 2016

I've seen many guns go for more than what you can buy from a vendor online new, and honestly, it bothers me, but I ignore it.

franch1se82 · Feb 5, 2016

JBP55 said:
I see 2 G19's in the handgun classifieds, one is $600 and one is $700 but I do not see any you have listed.
If a pistol is listed for more than it sells for at Academy It May Be Overpriced.
If I sold a like new VP9 with night sights for $625 that would be a very good price but If I was asking $775 it would be overpriced. YMMV

mine has not been listed, as it's in my safe awaiting a decision. whether to sell it or to send it into a vendor to customize it to my needs.

Vanilla Gorilla · Feb 12, 2016

DAVE_M said:
It's been in the works for the past few months, so you just may not have seen it. I first heard about them being made nearly 7 months ago, but it was just a rumor at the time. With the other MOS models out, it was only a matter of time. I put off buying an Atom slide forever. I just can't justify paying $500 for a slide, then $50+ for a plate, when I could wait and get a whole gun for that price.

My only concern as of now, is how high do optics sit? I don't want to have suppressor sights and still not be able to use them.

There is really no comparison between the two. The ATOM is a far better system and other than prove it doesn't have any of the fleas the MOS stuff is exhibiting.

DAVE_M · Feb 12, 2016

Vanilla Gorilla said:
There is really no comparison between the two. The ATOM is a far better system and other than prove it doesn't have any of the fleas the MOS stuff is exhibiting.

After looking more into the MOS systems, and the price, I'm probably just going to stick with no RDS. I cringe at the thought of having $1,500 in a Glock.

noob · Feb 12, 2016

DAVE_M said:
After looking more into the MOS systems, and the price, I'm probably just going to stick with no RDS. I cringe at the thought of having $1,500 in a Glock.

1500??? I think I bought my MOS g34 for 600 and an RMR can be had for about 400 bucks on Dvor quite often (I own 5 of them).

Vanilla Gorilla · Feb 12, 2016

I look at it as having $1500 in a reliable, accurate, handgun.

3fifty7 · Feb 12, 2016

This is our Hobby/Profession/Lifestyle and that costs money.
Hell I got $1200 in a 10/22, that is still nothing more than a 22lr. that's been sitting I'm my safe untouched for the past 4 years.
Yall almost got me convinced to start looking into these setups and put one on my LIST.

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MOTOR51 · Feb 12, 2016

Glock 17 & 19 MOS

Just out of curiosity, what does a $1500 glock do that I can't do with a $400 one. I'm seriously curious because I've never handled a $1500 glock.

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noob · Feb 12, 2016

Do it!

bigtattoo79 · Feb 13, 2016

noob said:
Do it!

My mind was made up on the Suarez International slide but I may take a better look at the MOS system.

noob · Feb 13, 2016

bigtattoo79 said:
My mind was made up on the Suarez International slide but I may take a better look at the MOS system.

Suarez is nice, but my Zev's hold the RMR's TIGHT. To the point It's hard to remove

US Infidel · Feb 13, 2016

Glock 17 & 19 MOS

Those Zev Glocks look nice. The Zev and Atom are solid platforms. I have one milled from Suarez. The RMR fits very tight. Hard to remove and get back together.

bsoileau24 · Feb 13, 2016

For those with red dots on there pistols where is the best place for the rear sights? In the front or rear of the rmr?

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US Infidel · Feb 13, 2016

Glock 17 & 19 MOS

The reason I believe the rear sight is in front of the RMR on some, is to keep the brass from possibly hitting the RMR. I have never have that happen yet with a few 1,000 rounds throughly it.
I kept my cost down by buying a complete lower when they had a sale, and a slide already milled with sights installed from Suarez. I didn't start with a complete gun. And Interstate guns gave me a great price on the RMR. $1200ish total in it maybe, including the threaded barrel. That's not counting the $200 to SBR it

noob · Feb 13, 2016

bsoileau24 said:
For those with red dots on there pistols where is the best place for the rear sights? In the front or rear of the rmr?

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I cannot say the sight in front of the optic is better or worse, since all of mine have the rear sight in the rear. But maybe they pushed the sight further back to get more space to mill in a tight spot. that way they can push the sight furthest rearward vs how tight the sight is to the barrel hood and extractor when it's in front of the sight. Also holster clearance is an issue, but a kydex holster and a dremel go a long way. Of my 4 pistols with RMR's, my Zev D17 doesn't even have a rear sight, it has a screw on panel that covers where it's milled, and the rear sight is dovetailed on that, but with the RMR on, the sight is gone.

A little dremel to a comp-tac holster

usads07 · Feb 15, 2016

franch1se82 said:
what would be considered "the right price"?
i'd like to get what i paid for it, which isn't really much lower than that price. i got it for $550, and would like to not go much lower than that.

Just purchased a GEN 4 G19 FDE from another poster last night. He had it listed for $500 and sold it for $475 to help cover gas money since I drove from New Orleans to Baton Rouge to pick it up. Price was more than reasonable. I say that because most handguns in the classifieds are over priced. If you look at national sellers such as Gunbroker or Budsguns you can get an idea of what prices are. You can also check local prices at Academy, Cabela's, etc. Most sellers are trying to get full retail for their handguns or think that all of the modifications or accessories that they have are going to be of interest to another buyer. Just like a car, once you walk out the door it is used. Just my humble opinion. I am sure there are plenty of buyers out there that are more than willing to pay full retail for a used weapon.

DAVE_M · Feb 15, 2016

noob said:
I cannot say the sight in front of the optic is better or worse, since all of mine have the rear sight in the rear. But maybe they pushed the sight further back to get more space to mill in a tight spot. that way they can push the sight furthest rearward vs how tight the sight is to the barrel hood and extractor when it's in front of the sight. Also holster clearance is an issue, but a kydex holster and a dremel go a long way. Of my 4 pistols with RMR's, my Zev D17 doesn't even have a rear sight, it has a screw on panel that covers where it's milled, and the rear sight is dovetailed on that, but with the RMR on, the sight is gone.

From what I've been told, it's for two reasons:
1) The rear sight protects the RDS (if in front).
2) You will always see the dot first, since the rear sight isn't blocking the sight.

Honestly, it may not make a huge difference, but that's what I've been told.

franch1se82 · Feb 15, 2016

im not trying to start a debate or anything, but a BNIB Glock 19 Gen 4 shouldn't be worth any less than you could buy at any venue, whether its Academy or from an online vendor.

i may be in the minority here, but asking $550 for something that has not been shot, holstered or even fondled is fair market value. not to mention that if you were to buy from Academy there's still taxes to pay, the wait time, etc ... and if you were to buy online, there's still shipping (in some cases) and transfer charges.

again, i am not trying to start a heated debate and i agree that $500 for a used FDE Gen 4 G19 is a good deal and even better since you got it for $475, heck, if you didn't snag it up, i would've.

DAVE_M · Feb 15, 2016

franch1se82 said:
im not trying to start a debate or anything, but a BNIB Glock 19 Gen 4 shouldn't be worth any less than you could buy at any venue, whether its Academy or from an online vendor.

i may be in the minority here, but asking $550 for something that has not been shot, holstered or even fondled is fair market value. not to mention that if you were to buy from Academy there's still taxes to pay, the wait time, etc ... and if you were to buy online, there's still shipping (in some cases) and transfer charges.

again, i am not trying to start a heated debate and i agree that $500 for a used FDE Gen 4 G19 is a good deal and even better since you got it for $475, heck, if you didn't snag it up, i would've.

Every Glock that comes from the factory has been shot. There's no possible way to determine minuscule round count. If you want new, you buy new. I don't care if you just bought it and it sat in your safe for months, it's used.

franch1se82 · Feb 15, 2016

by your statement, every gun is used... why pay new prices if no gun is new?

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