El Pozzinator
Well-Known Member
So, if we have the opinion that it is (or is not, doesn’t really matter) an individual choice to get vaccinated or abstain... where do we fall on a business’ right to refuse service to someone based on their vaccination status?
Personally I think vaccination is a HIPPA item and businesses (or other people, or an employer, or the government) have no right to know what ailments people have or what they’ve done or not done about them. Might as well make it legal to discriminate based on sickle-cell trait - oh, wait, that would be racist. But is it really any different? It’s a medical condition that affects only some people seriously, but anybody could carry it. Sorta like the ACTUAL data shows about all FOUR current variants of covid (Spanish, swine, avian, and “novel” / bat / Chinese / whatever we’re calling it). You want the jab? Cool. Go for it and good luck. You don’t want the jab? Cool. Good luck all the same.
Our society is founded on the principle that one person’s rights end at the exact moment where they infringe upon another person’s rights. We’re not ok banning guns just because some people are scared of them, and a ridiculously statistically insignificant percentage of the population misuses them. We’re not ok banning cars even though estimates indicate 10% of the population drives drunk regularly and 50% of the population speeds habitually. But we’re ok banning people from having an in-person social life because we can’t all get on the same page about an experimental treatment? “We” here being generally, not this group specifically. If we’re ok with that, we should be ok banning from social life 16-25 year old black males because statistically they commit the highest per capita percentage of violent crime and 25-40 year old white males because statistically they commit virtually all of the mass killings and acts of domestic terrorism. The point is, if we (again generally, not specifically) allow one limitation, then why not the other? It’s a slippery slope we’re being pushed toward.
Dunno. Maybe I’m just some jackwagon who spent 14 months of this mess sorting thru tens of thousands of pages of medical records to substantiate causes and manners of death in covid-positive patients which were actually NOT covid deaths...
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Personally I think vaccination is a HIPPA item and businesses (or other people, or an employer, or the government) have no right to know what ailments people have or what they’ve done or not done about them. Might as well make it legal to discriminate based on sickle-cell trait - oh, wait, that would be racist. But is it really any different? It’s a medical condition that affects only some people seriously, but anybody could carry it. Sorta like the ACTUAL data shows about all FOUR current variants of covid (Spanish, swine, avian, and “novel” / bat / Chinese / whatever we’re calling it). You want the jab? Cool. Go for it and good luck. You don’t want the jab? Cool. Good luck all the same.
Our society is founded on the principle that one person’s rights end at the exact moment where they infringe upon another person’s rights. We’re not ok banning guns just because some people are scared of them, and a ridiculously statistically insignificant percentage of the population misuses them. We’re not ok banning cars even though estimates indicate 10% of the population drives drunk regularly and 50% of the population speeds habitually. But we’re ok banning people from having an in-person social life because we can’t all get on the same page about an experimental treatment? “We” here being generally, not this group specifically. If we’re ok with that, we should be ok banning from social life 16-25 year old black males because statistically they commit the highest per capita percentage of violent crime and 25-40 year old white males because statistically they commit virtually all of the mass killings and acts of domestic terrorism. The point is, if we (again generally, not specifically) allow one limitation, then why not the other? It’s a slippery slope we’re being pushed toward.
Dunno. Maybe I’m just some jackwagon who spent 14 months of this mess sorting thru tens of thousands of pages of medical records to substantiate causes and manners of death in covid-positive patients which were actually NOT covid deaths...
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