1,200 Troops Headed To Border??? (CORRECTION)

[Old_Demon]

All show for the November elections. They'll gather intelligence until the elections are over and do nothing, they'll have gotten what they wanted.

 

[Yrdawg]

Arizona is being infiltrated and surrounded,leaders and families and supporters soon to be captured and run into FEMA camps as a rouge state, made an example of

What If ???

 

[Mjolnir]

I can say only one thing.


"Mjolnir 2012!"

You've got a position in my Administration, oleheat!

 

[CloudStrife]

I don't think I'd elect you just on that idea. It's a good one though. I'd put you in the DOD somewhere (I'd get rid of DHS).

If I were president, I'd replace EVERY federal tax with a flat sales tax... a fairly low one. ~10% or less. Oh, and repeal every federal gun law too. Who will vote for me?

 

[Mjolnir]

I don't think I'd elect you just on that idea. It's a good one though. I'd put you in the DOD somewhere (I'd get rid of DHS).

If I were president, I'd replace EVERY federal tax with a flat sales tax... a fairly low one. ~10% or less. Oh, and repeal every federal gun law too. Who will vote for me?

The flat tax is unconstitutional. Get rid of Federal INCOME Tax. Your INCOME isn't taxable lawfully. Congress agrees on the Federal Budget and it's apportioned to the population of the states. Period. No debt to roll over; no deficit.

Yeah, that one idea isn't enough. I'd abide by the Constitution for these united States of America and Bill of Rights or I'd fall on my sword on public TV. How's that?

 

[CloudStrife]

The flat tax is unconstitutional. Get rid of Federal INCOME Tax. Your INCOME isn't taxable lawfully. Congress agrees on the Federal Budget and it's apportioned to the population of the states. Period. No debt to roll over; no deficit.

Yeah, that one idea isn't enough. I'd abide by the Constitution for these united States of America and Bill of Rights or I'd fall on my sword on public TV. How's that?

Sales tax, not income.

 

[occunknown]

They will be handing out water and tortillas at the border. They will have medical help to deliver babies in case they can't make it to a town to get their free welfare.

 

[Mjolnir]

Sales tax, not income.

Each state determines it's own sales tax, though. I respect each state being a nation-state and retains it's own rights.

 

[CloudStrife]

Each state determines it's own sales tax, though. I respect each state being a nation-state and retains it's own rights.

A national sales tax

Is your idea to have congress pass a budget which is billed to the states? That's how I understood it.

 

[CCW]

How can the President deploy a state's National Guard troops domestically? I understand they are activated and deployed during times of war(?). Other than that, I thought the National Guard troops were directed by the Governor of each state...

 

[Bayoupiper]

How can the President deploy a state's National Guard troops domestically? I understand they are activated and deployed during times of war(?). Other than that, I thought the National Guard troops were directed by the Governor of each state...

Simple.

This President happily wipes his ass with the Constitution on a daily basis!



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[CloudStrife]

Simple.

This President happily wipes his ass with the Constitution on a daily basis!



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And Michelle makes use of it too...

 

[ajt2341]

I'd go if I would work low vis operations like humint collection and have a decent ammo load. Otherwise you're sending 1200 targets for the drug dealers who are excessivley overarmed. I've heard some crappy stories about the last time.

 

[Mjolnir]

A national sales tax

Is your idea to have congress pass a budget which is billed to the states? That's how I understood it.

I don't like a national sales tax. My idea is as it's outlayed in the Constitution: The Fed states it needs x amount of dollars; Congress either vetoes or ratifies and hands the bill to the states; the states are on the hook based upon their percentage of the total population. That would be your bill.

 

[CloudStrife]

I don't like a national sales tax. My idea is as it's outlayed in the Constitution: The Fed states it needs x amount of dollars; Congress either vetoes or ratifies and hands the bill to the states; the states are on the hook based upon their percentage of the total population. That would be your bill.

That would work. So federal funding would come from state taxes rather than having an additional federal tax.

 

[charlie12]

They are going to open a new welcome center.

 

[oleheat]

Does anyone believe President Obama would be doing this had it not been for the actions of Arizona?

IMHO, this only discredits the knee-jerk remarks ("irresponsible", "misguided") he made even further- thus making him look, well....foolish.

 

[CloudStrife]

Does anyone believe President Obama would be doing this had it not been for the actions of Arizona?

IMHO, this only discredits the knee-jerk remarks ("irresponsible", "misguided") he made even further- thus making him look, well....foolish.

He plays both sides to put on facade of making some conservative decisions, but he only takes real action in favor of the far left. It's the same with his decision not long ago to open more offshore drilling and approve a few more nuclear plants. The nuke plants will take forever build with union employees, and offshore drilling... well... that ain't happening now.

 

[oleheat]

He plays both sides to put on facade of making some conservative decisions, but he only takes real action in favor of the far left. It's the same with his decision not long ago to open more offshore drilling and approve a few more nuclear plants. The nuke plants will take forever build with union employees, and offshore drilling... well... that ain't happening now.

I think sending a paltry 1200 troops to aid in policing (I guess) the border is really kind of a joke, anyway. Once the troops they send actually arrive, we'll probably hear of some of them being indicted on human rights violations right out of the gate...

But I do think this move directly stems from Arizona's attempt to force the feds' hand.

The funny part is, for all the bad things he claims to have "inherited from the previous administration", Obama sure seems to recycle a lot of their old ideas.....

 

[ejt1469]

> Once the troops they send actually arrive, we'll probably hear of some of them being indicted on human rights violations right out of the gate...

Not troops, but...


"An Arizona man...is being sued by 16 Mexican nationals who accuse him of conspiring to violate their civil rights when he stopped them at gunpoint on his ranch on the U.S.-Mexico border"

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/feb/09/16-illegals-sue-arizona-rancher/