11 year old on bus threatens adults with .22 in waistband

[LongGoneDays]

http://www.katu.com/news/local/Mom-says-11-year-old-boy-with-gun-on-MAX-harassed-her-138237844.html




Imagine this did not happen on a crowded bus, or maybe the situation spilled over to a less crowded bus stop. If you were carrying, (which you wouldn't be, in Oregon) how would you handle this kid?

First thought(a): GUN!
First thought(b): that has to be a toy
Second though: oh damn I'm shot

?

I believe the women in the story did they right thing, seeing as they were unarmed on a bus and had their kids.
But what if that happened to you, and you were armed? A shoot out on a bus is not optimal, bu could be necessary. Do you want for confirmation, as in him shooting, that the gun is real?

I'm not saying 11 is too young to be shot for doing what he did, I'm just saying what do you think would be the best way to handle them seeing as the gun could be a toy ... and no one really wants to shoot a kid obviously.
Would you be willing to take a small caliber or two? Draw on him and just shoot if he starts pulling it?

I know what I think, I'm just not sure I would be able to react in a way that I'd like.

 

[I.B. Pimpin]

I should have shot him as soon as he reached for the gun. As some of you may know, my double taps are legendary.

 

[JWG223]

http://www.katu.com/news/local/Mom-says-11-year-old-boy-with-gun-on-MAX-harassed-her-138237844.html




Imagine this did not happen on a crowded bus, or maybe the situation spilled over to a less crowded bus stop. If you were carrying, (which you wouldn't be, in Oregon) how would you handle this kid?

First thought(a): GUN!
First thought(b): that has to be a toy
Second though: oh damn I'm shot

?

I believe the women in the story did they right thing, seeing as they were unarmed on a bus and had their kids.
But what if that happened to you, and you were armed? A shoot out on a bus is not optimal, bu could be necessary. Do you want for confirmation, as in him shooting, that the gun is real?

I'm not saying 11 is too young to be shot for doing what he did, I'm just saying what do you think would be the best way to handle them seeing as the gun could be a toy ... and no one really wants to shoot a kid obviously.
Would you be willing to take a small caliber or two? Draw on him and just shoot if he starts pulling it?

I know what I think, I'm just not sure I would be able to react in a way that I'd like.

MMQB'ing something from your computer screen isn't the same as being there, and having the constraints of (or even knowing them) the people who were there. I don't see how one could even begin to say what they would do, but rather, what they THINK they would MAYBE do.

What would I do?

I would mind my own damn business unless I thought my life or limb were in danger. If I thought that, I would do whatever was quickest to preserve my life and limb.

 

[RyanW]

No bail!!! At least it seems one judge may not have a bleeding heart for these leaches. It's amazing the comonalities that occur in situations like this.

 

[Robhic]

I'm a little confused at one point. The gang of punks get on the bus and start kicking this woman's stroller. Hard. She moves away. They follow and the punk with the gun shows her (what she took to be and what later turned out to be) a gun. She moved away. What did they want? She moves away again. And the little bastid puts the gun away. After the cops intercept the bus at the station the punk gets detained. He cries at the Juvie court. I don't get this.

They kicked her stroller and she moves away. They follow cursing at her. Punk flashes something. She moves away again. How far did this woman need to move to keep this (seeming) predator away from her? She moved twice. He moved once. He cries after being picked up by cops. Am I supposed to feel sorry for this kid? Too bad the woman couldn't have just punched him in the face as hard as she could. Bet he woulda cried at that point, too.

 

[Crimson]

Don't you just love our current society? It just absolutely amazes me.

 

[SpeedRacer]

Would I be willing to "take a small caliber or two"? Are you kidding? Isn't .22LR the number one caliber used in firearms deaths?

Other than NOT voluntarily accepting a small caliber or two into my body, I can honestly say I have zero clue what I would do in that situation. Way too many variables.

 

[OneStory]

I worked out what I would do in the scenario I imagined when I read the story. It is likely not exactly what happened but I role play these situations in my head for future reference. My role play always has me winning - for positive reinforcement.

In this situation, I imagined disparity of force, a deadly weapon and a couple of dead punks.

 

[03protege]

I can imagine snatching the gun and punching him in the face but at the same time I have to remember these "kids" are not anything like I was when I was that age.

 

[Crimson]

I just see a little kid flying through the air anytime I visualize my reaction.

 

[#1bambam]

Would I be willing to "take a small caliber or two"? Are you kidding? Isn't .22LR the number one caliber used in firearms deaths?

Other than NOT voluntarily accepting a small caliber or two into my body, I can honestly say I have zero clue what I would do in that situation. Way too many variables.

Well at least you dont leak out much and usually theres no exit.LOL

 

[OneStory]

Well at least you dont leak out much and usually theres no exit.LOL

...so you probably have surgery which may result in a larger entry hole or a newly manufactured exit hole.

Either way, bad news.

 

[edman87k5]

I am a decent sixed guy, if it were me, I believe I could handle an 11 year old and would have no problem in my mind hurting him. Thug ass kids grow up to be thug ass adults.
The bad part is he will probably get a slap on the wrist and while in juvie, will learn to be a better criminal.
Had an adult hurt him, they would have probably gotten in trouble.

 

[OneStory]

I am a decent sixed guy, if it were me, I believe I could handle an 11 year old and would have no problem in my mind hurting him. Thug ass kids grow up to be thug ass adults.
The bad part is he will probably get a slap on the wrist and while in juvie, will learn to be a better criminal.
Had an adult hurt him, they would have probably gotten in trouble.

"sixed" guy? Does that mean you have six-pack abs or that you are usually drunk? ;-)

 

[Crimson]

"sixed" guy? Does that mean you have six-pack abs or that you are usually drunk? ;-)

either way, He's going to whoop that kids ass!!! Honestly my only reserve would be getting arrested for kicking a kid in the face.

 

[jguilletjr]

I don't want to shoot any one, especially a Kid. But I believe a Kid will kill you just as dead as any one else will. Some one pulls a gun on me, I will defend my self as best I can.

 

[12secHemi]

Oh can't you just hear his momma's cries in his behalf. "Not my baby, he wouldn't do dat"! Where was she? Probably giving some dude a hummer for a crack rock.
You're welcome.

 

[Jack]

I would like to think that I would've gone after him when I saw him reaching in his pants for something. I don't carry, so me drawing is obviously out of the question, but I think I could get a hold of him, easily physically control him, and stomp him until he dropped whatever he had. That said, I think I would be thinking very clearly in a situation like that, not because I'm not afraid to be shot, god knows I am, but instead because its an 11 year old. I just don't see an 11 year old shaking me up enough to stop me from being able to handle the situation.

 

[ajt2341]

I'd have drawn the minute he showed it off as a show of force. Had he reached for it I would have done whatever needed doing to stop the threat..

 

[Skiney]

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