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  • GBob01

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    Lawmakers in 20 states move to reclaim sovereignty
    http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.p...w&pageId=88218


    Posted: February 06, 2009
    11:50 pm Eastern


    By Jerome R. Corsi
    © 2009 WorldNetDaily



    Oklahoma Republican state Sen. Randy Brogdon
    NEW YORK – As the Obama administration attempts to push through Congress a nearly $1 trillion deficit spending plan that is weighted heavily toward advancing typically Democratic-supported social welfare programs, a rebellion against the growing dominance of federal control is beginning to spread at the state level.

    So far, eight states have introduced resolutions declaring state sovereignty under the Ninth and Tenth Amendment to the Constitution, including Arizona, Hawaii, Montana, Michigan, Missouri, New Hampshire, Oklahoma and Washington.

    Analysts expect that in addition, another 20 states may see similar measures introduced this year, including Alaska, Alabama, Arkansas, California, Colorado, Georgia, Idaho, Indiana, Kansas, Nevada, Maine and Pennsylvania.

    "What we are trying to do is to get the U.S. Congress out of the state's business," Oklahoma Republican state Sen. Randy Brogdon told WND.

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    "Congress is completely out of line spending trillions of dollars over the last 10 years putting the nation into a debt crisis like we've never seen before," Brogdon said, arguing that the Obama stimulus plan is the last straw taxing state patience in the brewing sovereignty dispute.

    "This particular 111th Congress is the biggest bunch of over-reachers and underachievers we've ever had in Congress," he said.

    "A sixth-grader should realize you can't borrow money to pay off your debt, and that is the Obama administration's answer for a stimulus package," he added.

    The Ninth Amendment reads, "The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people."

    The Tenth Amendment specifically provides, "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."

    Brogdon, the lead sponsor of the Oklahoma state senate version of the sovereignty bill, has been a strong opponent of extending the plan to build a four-football-fields-wide Trans-Texas Corridor parallel to Interstate-35 to Oklahoma, as WND reported.

    Rollback federal authority

    The various sovereignty measures moving through state legislatures are designed to reassert state authority through a rollback of federal authority under the powers enumerated in the Constitution, with the states assuming the governance of the non-enumerated powers, as required by the Tenth Amendment.

    The state sovereignty measures, aimed largely at the perceived fiscal irresponsibility of Congress in the administrations of Bill Clinton and George W. Bush, have gained momentum with the $1 trillion deficit-spending economic stimulus package the Obama administration is currently pushing through Congress.

    Particularly disturbing to many state legislators are the increasing number of "unfunded mandates" that have proliferated in social welfare programs, such as Medicare and Medicaid, in which bills passed by Congress dictate policy to the states without providing funding.

    In addition, the various state resolutions include discussion of a wide range of policy areas, including the regulation of firearms sales (Montana) and the demand to issue drivers licenses with technology to embed personal information under the Western Hemisphere Travel Initiative and the Real ID Act (Michigan).

    Hawaii's measure calls for a new state constitutional convention to return self-governance, a complaint that traces back to the days it was a U.S. territory, prior to achieving statehood in 1959.

    "We are trying to send a message to the federal government that the states are trying to reclaim their sovereignty," Republican Rep. Matt Shea, the lead sponsor of Washington's sovereignty resolution told WND.

    "State sovereignty has been eroded in so many areas, it's hard to know where to start," he said. "There are a ton of federal mandates imposed on states, for instance, on education spending and welfare spending."

    Shea said the Obama administration's economic stimulus package moving through Congress is a "perfect example."

    "In the state of Washington, we have increased state spending 33 percent in the last three years and hired 6,000 new state employees, often using federal mandates as an excuse to grow state government," he said. "We need to return government back down to the people, to keep government as close to the local people as possible."

    Shea is a private attorney who serves with the Alliance Defense Fund, a nationwide network of about 1,000 attorneys who work pro-bono. As a counter to the ACLU, the alliance seeks to protect and defend religious liberty, the sanctity of life and traditional family values.

    Republican state Rep. Judy Burges, the primary sponsor of the sovereignty resolution in the Arizona House, told WND the federal government "has been trouncing on our constitutional rights."

    "The real turning point for me was the Real ID act, which involved both a violation of the Fourth Amendments rights against the illegal searches and seizures and the Tenth Amendment," she said.

    Burges told WND she is concerned that the overreaching of federal powers could lead to new legislation aimed at confiscating weapons from citizens or encoding ammunition.

    "The Real ID Act was so broadly written that we are afraid that it involves the potential for "mission-creep," that could easily involve confiscation of firearms and violations of the Second Amendment," she said.

    Burges said she has been surprised at the number of e-mails she has received in support of the sovereignty measure.

    "We are a sovereign state in Arizona, not a branch of the federal government, and we need to be treated as such, she insisted.
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    Time that we all start writing to Gov. Bobby and jump start LA's movement.
     

    smith625

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    Lets go what the f... do we need the feds for. What has the fed gov done for you lately. Think about this as you send your tax money in. Ive had enough and i approve this message.
     

    LACamper

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    LA won't do it. They're too worried about not having disaster funds. Plus we're having budget problems even now. Baton Rouge thinks we need the federal funds.

    I'm more surprised MS isn't on there.
     
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    Great Idea!!

    I apologize for the length but you can’t throw a states rights issue at a hardcore conservative Political Science major and expect a short response!

    Not to offend anybody, but just incase nobody has made it past the 2nd amendment yet, article 1 section 8 of the US constitution sets out the duties of the legislature.

    Section 8. The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes, duties, imposts and excises, to pay the debts and provide for the common defense and general welfare of the United States; but all duties, imposts and excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

    To borrow money on the credit of the United States;

    To regulate commerce with foreign nations, and among the several states, and with the Indian tribes;

    To establish a uniform rule of naturalization, and uniform laws on the subject of bankruptcies throughout the United States;

    To coin money, regulate the value thereof, and of foreign coin, and fix the standard of weights and measures;

    To provide for the punishment of counterfeiting the securities and current coin of the United States;

    To establish post offices and post roads;

    To promote the progress of science and useful arts, by securing for limited times to authors and inventors the exclusive right to their respective writings and discoveries;

    To constitute tribunals inferior to the Supreme Court;

    To define and punish piracies and felonies committed on the high seas, and offenses against the law of nations;

    To declare war, grant letters of marque and reprisal, and make rules concerning captures on land and water;

    To raise and support armies, but no appropriation of money to that use shall be for a longer term than two years;

    To provide and maintain a navy;

    To make rules for the government and regulation of the land and naval forces;

    To provide for calling forth the militia to execute the laws of the union, suppress insurrections and repel invasions;

    To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the militia, and for governing such part of them as may be employed in the service of the United States, reserving to the states respectively, the appointment of the officers, and the authority of training the militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;

    To exercise exclusive legislation in all cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten miles square) as may, by cession of particular states, and the acceptance of Congress, become the seat of the government of the United States, and to exercise like authority over all places purchased by the consent of the legislature of the state in which the same shall be, for the erection of forts, magazines, arsenals, dockyards, and other needful buildings;--And

    To make all laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into execution the foregoing powers, and all other powers vested by this Constitution in the government of the United States, or in any department or officer thereof.

    At the end there is the “Necessary and Proper” clause, which is what has ruined and perverted the duties of congress. They assume that regulating the amount of water used each time you flush the toilet is “necessary and proper for carrying into execution the foregoing powers, and all other powers vested by this Constitution in the government of the United States.” The best use of this clause that I can think of is that the constitution calls for the creating of an army (militia) and a navy, but says nothing of the Air Force (which is understandable considering flight was not invented for another 120 or so years after it was written). However, nobody is calling the creating of the Air Force unconstitutional, why? Because it is necessary and proper!!! Telling me what to set my AC on in my own house is not necessary nor is it any of their business.

    What they don’t realize is that their rights as congressmen are limited by article 1 section 8. They do not have endless power. WE DO!! The bill of rights, most importantly, the 9th amendment assures us of that. It basically says that we have way too many freedoms to try to enumerate and that the ones they did list are not a total list of rights. They list some of the very important and most obvious ones in the first couple of amendments such as the freedom of speech, religion, the press, and the right to bear arms, etc. Those however are not our only rights!!

    I wish the federal government would go back to tending to their very short list of duties as provided by the US Constitution. We would all be much much better off.
     

    dangermoney

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    So tell me, how exactly is it that these 20 states are moving to "reclaim" something that they already have as guaranteed by the Constitution of the "United States" of America?

    :confused:

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