Accurate Handguns
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Super Dave
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For a 45 I'm very impressed with my Cajun Gun Works CZ 97b. Got a 2" group at 50 yards on a rest.
If I wanted and accurate 45 I'd order a custom 1911 from Clark Custom.
But for the price the CZ is hard to beat. The trigger is just as good as a tuned 1911.
For a new shooter I would suggest a good 22, like a Ruger, long barrel and trigger job from Clark Custom.
Starting with a 45 shooting factory ammo is a recipe for developing flinch and bad habits.
Dave
If I wanted and accurate 45 I'd order a custom 1911 from Clark Custom.
But for the price the CZ is hard to beat. The trigger is just as good as a tuned 1911.
For a new shooter I would suggest a good 22, like a Ruger, long barrel and trigger job from Clark Custom.
Starting with a 45 shooting factory ammo is a recipe for developing flinch and bad habits.
Dave
11BravoBernie
Active Member
All the weapons in this thread are capable of accuracy, but that gun can't shoot itself...it is only as good as the shooter.
Correct: It's not the arrow its the indian.
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Pretty well stated. I'll add to the fact that far too many normal folks (those who have never carried a handgun on their person- or haven't done it enough to really learn that) don't really think about WHAT they need if they want a defensive pistol they can carry. CZs are generally great pistols... And most of them are rather large and heavy, which very few will ever carry it on their person. I've been carrying one sort of another handgun, every day, for over 38 years now. And you won't ever see me with an all-steel pistol, of ANY brand, as a daily carry piece.
One thing I will disagree with... there are quite a few modern, light and heavy.. pistols that simply are NOT as accurate as some others. A pistol holding a two inch group at 25 yards is excellent. One holding a SIX inch group at the same distance; well, not so hot. And there has been plenty of those out there... and still are.
I guess my point here is, if you don't intend/plan to personally, on your body concealed, constantly carry a piece, then your selection is huge. If you do, then good selections are a whole lot less; and more involved than most folks I know have really thought about.
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Barney88PDC
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99% of the pistols on the market will out shoot 99% of the people on the planet.
People like to quote what you said but almost everyone shooting a SAO Sig P210 Legend Target for precision will out shoot almost everyone shooting a M&P 9mm.
Regardless of a shooters skill level a more accurate pistol is still a more accurate pistol. Same thing applies for your rifles.
You are confusing "shootability" with accuracy.
A glock 34 with target sights is a whole lot easier to shoot than a glock 43.
Or I'll use this as an example, since you brought up rifles...
A Marlin 60 with a 16x optic is a whole lot easier to shoot than the same Marlin 60 without an optic.
I'm sure that Sig IS more precise in the accuracy department, but it IS also easier to shoot than a M&P 9.
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I watched a fella hit a cantaloupe with a Hi-Point from 20 yards...... He used to be a pitcher though.
Now thats some accuracy. Did he get it to break or was it just straight down the middle?
Accuracy would be the pistol and shootability would be the shooter. Some shoot sub 2" groups with a G19 at 25 yards and some shoot 16" groups with a G34.
Anyone that thinks a Sig P210 is harder to shoot for groups at 25 yards than a M&P "Is Confused". A Glock 34 is easier to shoot than a G30 due to the longer sight radius but the G30 is a more accurate pistol.
I'm gonna break down what you posted, because you are all over the place.
Take a G34 a shoot a ten shot group. Then put a stock on it and shoot a ten shot group. They should be equally as accurate, but which one do you think is easier to shoot? I'm not talking about the shooter.
Where did I say that? You're the one who is confused.
And you just proved my point.
You can't compare your wet dream Sig to a M&P 9, because the Sig is more "shootable."
Take a G34 a shoot a ten shot group. Then put a stock on it and shoot a ten shot group. They should be equally as accurate, but which one do you think is easier to shoot? I'm not talking about the shooter.
Where did I say that? You're the one who is confused.
And you just proved my point.
You can't compare your wet dream Sig to a M&P 9, because the Sig is more "shootable."
01coltcolt
Member
Not everybody can shoot a handgun accurately. It takes practice, and you have to find the technique that works best for you. While I would consider myself an exceptional rifleman, my handgun skills where lacking for years. It took me 6 times to get a Expert marksmanship badge in the military with the Berretta M9. But I shot a 39 out of 40 with the M-16 in basic training. That being said the two handguns that I did shoot really well where the Colt Gold Cup National Match my dad gave me and the HK P7 I bought some years ago. Both extremely accurate pistols.
gunslinger
Well-Known Member
A review of the Les Baer 1911 Premier II has to begin with the concept of a custom handgun. Unlike many gunsmiths, Les Baer has found a way to provide custom precision in a production system. This is achieved by treating each individual handgun separately; they are built, not assembled. From the frame up, each part is fitted precisely to that gun, each given a matching serial number. At each stage, gunsmiths who specialize in the 1911 platform fit and tune each part to that particular frame. In fact, each pistol comes with a DVD that shows the production methods used. The result is a 1911 hand gun that is guaranteed to shoot 3″ groups at 50 yards. An upgrade for a 1.5″ guarantee is also available. O yeah lots of trigger time .
