AK Pistols back in stock at J&G

[bs875]

The arms of the folder sit on the outside of the receiver and would cover the numbers. When opening and closing the stock would rub them off.

After looking at my M92 I would have to agree. What a massive oversight by Zastava. Know your market people!

 

[Cochise]

The arms of the folder sit on the outside of the receiver and would cover the numbers. When opening and closing the stock would rub them off.

So, you're saying that the only reason you couldn't put an underfolder stock on this is because, when folded under, the arm would be over the S/N and for no other reason? I want to make sure I understand this because if that was the only reason, then that wouldn't stop me from doing it as long as, with the stock extended, the serial numbers were completely visible.
I can see where the arm might rub a little, but I can't see how it would rub enough to wear through the engraved S/N.
Am I missing something?

 

[alex]

Good thing I'll be using a side folder

 

[rockmup]

Good thing I'll be using a side folder

Yup. Buy the Korean side folders from Curtis and away you go.

 

[AK shooter]

http://www.theakforum.net/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=184466

 

[rockmup]

I was looking at mine last night. I'll match a trunnion up to it later and see for myself. I don't like the ACE folding mech. Before I did that I'd just buy a new side folder receiver and do something else with the original one

 

[rockmup]

They are not the same as the Romanian Draco. They are Yugo M92 Krinks being sold as pistols.

They are the same style but not the same. I have 3 real krinks and two of the PAP pistols here. The PAP's are nice, real nice but........... they don't feel the same. I don't think the quality is as good. The dust cover is a little flimsy feeling and the grip has a casting seam on it that wasn't taken care of. I'll give them a better look this evening.

 

[Nomad.2nd]

The serial number cannot be moved.
http://www.theakforum.net/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=84&t=181879&start=50

Allow me to rephrase:

You are MAKING a SBR...

You can turn in "destroyed" paperwork on serial number number one, and 'create' a newly made and serialized SBR

this is common with post samples, etc

By all means check with the ATF, but NFA items are different than regular rifles (as referenced in your letter)

I'm not a lawyer etc etc etc...

 

[alex]

http://www.theakforum.net/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=184466

While I can somewhat *understand* why this seems illegal, I want to do a little more research to know exactly why a legal relocation of the exact same serial number cannot happen.

I'm, of course, no lawyer but the statute I've read has, "...obliterate, remove, change, or alter this number..."

Since it's the exact same serial number and since they did not specify "relocation of number" in the statute then I find it worthwhile to at least writing a letter to the ATF.

EDIT: Found my answer. ATF letter saying it's a no-no here: http://www.hkpro.com/forum/hk-long-gun-talk/78341-atf-ruling-sl8-g36-conversions.html

Going with Nomad's comment on a Form 1 request seems like the way to go. The question then is will the ATF require a complete destruction of the pistol to just parts before rebuilding it.

This post kinda cracked me up:

Not saying you are wrong, but on the old Vollmer conversions they relocated the serial WITHOUT removing it. Basically two thin strips of metal were left intact leading to the serial number and then those thin strips were folded into layers to allow the "intact serial number" to be welded down in a higher location on the receiver.

 

[alex]

I think I'm still optimistic on the sidefolder. Here's a pic of the serial number location:

and here is the sidefolder rivet location:

 

[rockmup]

Correct. I'm sure you can do the side folder

 

[AK shooter]

Here is the work that needs to be done to the front trunnion to install the latch.
http://www.theakforum.net/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=170965&hilit=M92

 

[rockmup]

The side folder will fit no problem and there is plenty of room for the latch.

 

[Born4spd]

I'll pick up the draco over this...The barrel is not chromelined. I find that important in a Kalash.

 

[alex]

Fair enough reason.

Started another thread...it'll likely be a 5-year project

http://www.bayoushooter.com/forums/showthread.php?89936-M92PV-SBR-Conversion...

 

[Scott.Thornton]

Glad my thread is now the "other Yugo pistol thread" I feel accomplished.

 

[EricP]

OK, so I just got one of these from JG Sales, and I bought a Yugo Underfolder Kit

What do I have to do? I understand all the legal questions regarding SBR and serial number.

What I am asking is, what would be required to mount the Yugo Underfolder kit to the receiver? Is it just a matter of drilling, or do I need to replace the rear Trunion also?

Thanks so much. I have been shotting AKs for a long time but admit that other than a Saiga 12 pistol grip conversion, I am noob to making mods.