ATTN: Verizon Wireless Customers - Break out your tinfoil

[JBE]

...and wrap it around your phone instead of your head...

Report: Feds getting phone records of all Verizon customers

WASHINGTON The National Security Agency currently is collecting the telephone records of millions of U.S. customers of Verizon under a top secret court order, Britain's Guardian newspaper said Wednesday.

The order was granted by the secret Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court on April 25 and was good until July 19, the newspaper said. The order requires Verizon, one of the nation's largest telecommunications companies, on an "ongoing, daily basis" to give the NSA information on all telephone calls in its systems, both within the U.S. and between the U.S. and other countries.

 

[oleheat]

U.S. Is Secretly Collecting Records of Verizon Calls

Does anyone really believe it's only Verizon?


This isn't going to be recieved well, with all of the recent scandals currently raging in D.C.- all "tinfoil" joking aside.

Thoughts?


http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/06/us/us-secretly-collecting-logs-of-business-calls.html?hp&_r=1&

 

[oleheat]

You beat me to the punch!! Mods- please delete or merge my thread......

 

[swamper]

You beat me to the punch!! Mods- please delete or merge my thread......

Dizzone.

 

[senseiturtle]

We would be completely naive to think that the Feds haven't been doing this for YEARS.... all carriers, all phones, and likely, all data. Remember that we're living under a tyranny disguised as a representative republic. Can we name any rules, laws, or restrictions on the government that are actually followed? Once you get high enough in the system, individuals exercise whatever power they want, so as long as they don't get caught by watchdogs or media.

It's also important to note that no one specifically cares about 99.99% of these phone calls.

 

[Vermiform]

 

[Armnhammer]

That's funny


MOΛΩN ΛABE

 

[headspace]

Well, I've already gone through my house and gathered up every roll of Reynolds wrap I had stashed. I gave it up. I'm a recovering tin foil hat wearing conspiracy theorist prepper... Or so they say.

But yeah, this ain't nothing new. Big brother be monitoring everything.

 

[SeventhSon]

 

[Emperor]

Once you get high enough in the system, individuals exercise whatever power they want, so as long as they don't get caught by watchdogs or media..

I remember a time when this was one and the same for the good of the country as a whole?

And since one of these two is dead and gone, and the other gets constantly marginalized by what's left of the other; I'd say the scumbags are free to roam!

 

[Vsotok10]

Obama is going for broke; I just hope his broke-d!ck administration continues to expose itself for the potential tyranny it is.

 

[SpeedRacer]

Obama is going for broke; I just hope his broke-d!ck administration continues to expose itself for the potential tyranny it is.

IIRC the cell phone surveillance is allowed via the Patriot Act and has been going on since the Bush administration.

 

[returningliberty]

IIRC the cell phone surveillance is allowed via the Patriot Act and has been going on since the Bush administration.

Damn your facts and reason!

 

[Vsotok10]

IIRC the cell phone surveillance is allowed via the Patriot Act and has been going on since the Bush administration.

So much for hope and change.

 

[LACamper]

We really need to repeal that also.

 

[Labeeman]

It did start under Bush. I'm not taking up for the Bush administration, but from what I have gleaned from reading other articles the Bush folks were way more selective. They were not collecting as near as much as the powers that be in DC are doing at this point in time. I have read more that one article that states that they are collecting every single phone call, email etc for every person in the US. Although not my original idea, I do believe that they will keep encroaching on our freedom under the guise of protecting us from Terrorism. They will not stop until they are forced to. Either it will be at the ballot box or by blood in the streets. No matter what country you live in, people are people, and when they have had enough whether it be hunger, over taxation, or political tyranny the common people will revolt. It has been repeated over and over again throughout human history. The administration in DC has gotten so bad that the ultra liberal New York Times has said just today that Obama has no more credibility. Hopefully this is the small crack in the dam that will later give way to a giant swell of individuals going to the ballot box and removing these pretenders. Good luck peeps its going to get crazy in the US in the near future

 

[Peacemaker]

It did start under Bush. I'm not taking up for the Bush administration, but from what I have gleaned from reading other articles the Bush folks were way more selective. They were not collecting as near as much as the powers that be in DC are doing at this point in time. I have read more that one article that states that they are collecting every single phone call, email etc for every person in the US. Although not my original idea, I do believe that they will keep encroaching on our freedom under the guise of protecting us from Terrorism. They will not stop until they are forced to. Either it will be at the ballot box or by blood in the streets. No matter what country you live in, people are people, and when they have had enough whether it be hunger, over taxation, or political tyranny the common people will revolt. It has been repeated over and over again throughout human history. The administration in DC has gotten so bad that the ultra liberal New York Times has said just today that Obama has no more credibility. Hopefully this is the small crack in the dam that will later give way to a giant swell of individuals going to the ballot box and removing these pretenders. Good luck peeps its going to get crazy in the US in the near future

Totally agree.. 100% Of course you realize how dificult it is to make some folks believe that?? Even when you show them over and over again they refuse to believe..

 

[oleheat]

So....Does anyone know of a reputable Chinese ISP they can recommend?

I'd like to find a more secure web-browsing experience.

 

[Emperor]

It did start under Bush. I'm not taking up for the Bush administration, but from what I have gleaned from reading other articles the Bush folks were way more selective. They were not collecting as near as much as the powers that be in DC are doing at this point in time. I have read more that one article that states that they are collecting every single phone call, email etc for every person in the US. Although not my original idea, I do believe that they will keep encroaching on our freedom under the guise of protecting us from Terrorism. They will not stop until they are forced to. Either it will be at the ballot box or by blood in the streets. No matter what country you live in, people are people, and when they have had enough whether it be hunger, over taxation, or political tyranny the common people will revolt. It has been repeated over and over again throughout human history. The administration in DC has gotten so bad that the ultra liberal New York Times has said just today that Obama has no more credibility. Hopefully this is the small crack in the dam that will later give way to a giant swell of individuals going to the ballot box and removing these pretenders. Good luck peeps its going to get crazy in the US in the near future

Sorry, man! Don't allow your intelligence and awareness of current or political events to fog your hope. We live amongst some REALLY, REALLY clueless people! And if you throw in those that just don't care what's going on around them, particularly concerning government, you have a very large populace that won't do anything differently.

If ever there were a more perfect example of people trained like monkeys (remain ignorant), to do circus tricks (vote for who we say), on demand, it's the American people in general.

I don't share your optimism for change at the ballot box.

 

[oleheat]

What's the difference between this and a gov't employee coming into your home & reading your mail? Or tapping your home phone?

This is scary $hit. Unless of course you totally trust the schmucks in DC who at the moment are under heavy fire for running amuck in the "taking liberties" department.....



This country needs a serious enema- and I don't care if someone reads that.