Conscription being discussed at upper levels

[jimdana1942]

Last couple weeks I have seen several discussions in the media about the possibility of students graduating from H.S. being required to enter Govt. service for 2 years. Seems just talk for now but isn't that the way it first presents itself to the Citizens as they soften us up for the real thing?

I for one would not want my children or grand children to be forced in these trying, manufactured times, to be forcibly placed in a position of great peril to serve the powers that be.

Pay attention folks. The talk is surfacing.

 

[Wolfgang1952]

If it’s for the Military service I am all for it. I believe that every Man and Woman from the age of 18 should spend at least four (4) years in the Military. I know I am opening a can of worms on this one, Woman want the same treatment put them on the front line to.

 

[Yrdawg]

I'd be interested in hearing what some recent vets say. If they would recommend todays military.

 

[JadeRaven]

I've heard this same garbage ever since I started hearing garbage.

Most recently was around 2008.

I'm now getting too old to draft so I don't much care either way, but there won't be any conscription/draft until the next world war breaks out.

 

[Gus McCrae]

Last couple weeks I have seen several discussions in the media about the possibility of students graduating from H.S. being required to enter Govt. service for 2 years. Seems just talk for now but isn't that the way it first presents itself to the Citizens as they soften us up for the real thing?

I for one would not want my children or grand children to be forced in these trying, manufactured times, to be forcibly placed in a position of great peril to serve the powers that be.

Pay attention folks. The talk is surfacing.

They've been talking about this ever since Obama was elected to office. Still hasn't happened. We'll see.

If it’s for the Military service I am all for it. I believe that every Man and Woman from the age of 18 should spend at least four (4) years in the Military. I know I am opening a can of worms on this one, Woman want the same treatment put them on the front line to.

Because you hate America and everything it stands for?

 

[buttanic]

Overall I think it would benifit society in general. High school graduates or dropouts would have to serve two years, no deferments as in the past except for medical issues and even then depending on what it is. It would get a lot of them off the streets and maybe open their eyes.
I received my draft notice at 20, opted to join the Navy. In retrospect I spent two years from high school graduation before going in the Navy in limbo hoping to avoid it but I wouldn't give up the experience of the service for anything. Came out with job experience and landed a good job.

 

[Mjolnir]

We are, by and large, UNORGANIZED MILITIA.

State's Militia service would be fine; you never leave THE SOVEREIGN STATE U RESIDE IN.

Talk like that will brand one as "UN-American" nowadays.

 

[sraacke]

Because what the land for the free needs is mandated indentured servitude to the federal government.
I'm a Army vet and I think that military experiance is a good thing for many people but bring back the draft? Hell no. A citizen should not be required to do enter into government service anymore than any other job or experiance.
What if someone proposed that every hugh school graduate serve 2 years working the drive up window at McDonalds because, "it was such a great learning experiance where I got to deal with people and money which really gave me a better understanding of the world"?
How about, "every citizen between the age of 30 and 32 will spend every Saturday sweeping public streets with a broom. These broom crews will rid our roads of debris such as trash and tire hazards". Think of he stories. " "I remember my 2 years pushing the broom. Sure I missed a lot of football and baseball games and time with my kids but I learned a lot and it built character. And you wouldn't believe the crap that's on the street. If we hadn't been there to sweep it up who would?"
We have a professional military made up of people who applied for the job and want to be there and are willing to accept giving up their rights and adhereing to the grooming and appearance standards while they serve. Filling the ranks with conscripts who are there just filling their mandated time will do nothing for our military readiness or morale. Besides, I get Army Times in the mail every week and I'm pretty sure that we are slashing the military right now, not adding to the numbers.

 

[sraacke]

We are, by and large, UNORGANIZED MILITIA.

State's Militia service would be fine; you never leave THE SOVEREIGN STATE U RESIDE IN.

Talk like that will brand one as "UN-American" nowadays.

Sure, have everyone serve 2 years in the State Guard. They could hang out with the National Guard soldiers and complain about the crappy pay and lack of services like everyone else.
I did time in the Louisiana State Guard as a Staff Sgt after I was discharged from the Army. Worked out of the old State Emergency Operations Center in downtown Baton Rouge.

Of course, if we made it mandatory, who's going to pay for it? The feds won't give a dime to State Guards and I doubt Jindal is going to put the money up out of his own pocket.

 

[Russo]

keep voting for the same candidates and the mandatory draft will come back... the people at the top see us as expendable... they will pay for it with fiat currency, just like they pay for everything else...

 

[LACamper]

Our military is the most effective in the world. Why? because its all volunteer. The people in the military want to be there. Take a look at the USSR military before the fall of the berlin wall, especially their Navy. From everything I've read half of their equipment was down for repair at any one point. Morale was horrible.

Not to mention paying all of those guys with nothing to do but sit around and complain. So, I guess we need to go start some more fights to give them something to do. Oh, yeah, we don't do that. Oh, we can find some more natural disasters in 3rd world countries to throw our tax dollars at. That's a good use of our MILITARY (its supposed to be for fighting, not good will gestures) not to mention our tax dollars.

 

[Yrdawg]

Because what the land for the free needs is mandated indentured servitude to the federal government.
I'm a Army vet and I think that military experiance is a good thing for many people but bring back the draft? Hell no. A citizen should not be required to do enter into government service anymore than any other job or experiance.
What if someone proposed that every hugh school graduate serve 2 years working the drive up window at McDonalds because, "it was such a great learning experiance where I got to deal with people and money which really gave me a better understanding of the world"?
How about, "every citizen between the age of 30 and 32 will spend every Saturday sweeping public streets with a broom. These broom crews will rid our roads of debris such as trash and tire hazards". Think of he stories. " "I remember my 2 years pushing the broom. Sure I missed a lot of football and baseball games and time with my kids but I learned a lot and it built character. And you wouldn't believe the crap that's on the street. If we hadn't been there to sweep it up who would?"
We have a professional military made up of people who applied for the job and want to be there and are willing to accept giving up their rights and adhereing to the grooming and appearance standards while they serve. Filling the ranks with conscripts who are there just filling their mandated time will do nothing for our military readiness or morale. Besides, I get Army Times in the mail every week and I'm pretty sure that we are slashing the military right now, not adding to the numbers.

Brings a question...compared top the number of guys who came home from Viet Nam with drug problems, what is the Voluntary Military stats on drug addiction ??

Viet Nam had a LOT of draftees, and from what I remember a lot of drug problems.

One draw back to the military is that I think even with todays Vet Services we fall WAY short of what they deserve.

 

[FishingBack]

YOU BETTER NOT SPIT IN MY BURGER!!!!

Team Ramrod! Say Team Ramrod!

 

[Mjolnir]

keep voting for the same candidates and the mandatory draft will come back... the people at the top see us as expendable... they will pay for it with fiat currency, just like they pay for everything else...

Amen

 

[USMC-Deano]

I have no problem with mandatory military service. I've always thought the Swiss and the Israelis had it right with that one. Most non-military/veterans I've met that are in my age group(18-30) are complete morons, IMO. I feel that earning citizenship through military service would be an awesome idea. Obviously, I'm not talking about those who are physically/mentally incapable of serving, but if you are capable of serving, you should. Period. I won't even go as far as to say women should do it, but at the very least, those comprising the "militia," as defined by law, should have to serve.

I will say this, however, that even though I've already done 4, they won't have to draft me. I want back in, for the reason mentioned above.

 

[Blackhawk]

Manditory military service ain't gonna happen. All the services are at or near congressionally mandated maximum strength, with talk of lowering. There's no need (other than "normal" recruiting), and no money allocated.

 

[Summit_Ace]

If it’s for the Military service I am all for it. I believe that every Man and Woman from the age of 18 should spend at least four (4) years in the Military. I know I am opening a can of worms on this one, Woman want the same treatment put them on the front line to.

First, if you are a veteran thank you for your service. It is veterans that has made this country great. their service however was given freely and not required. That said pretty much every other communist country in the world has done this so why shouldn't we?

 

[Yrdawg]

First, if you are a veteran thank you for your service. It is veterans that has made this country great. their service however was given freely and not required. That said pretty much every other communist country in the world has done this so why shouldn't we?

We tried the draft...Viet Nam was the one I remember best. Huge number of guys returned with drug problems. Not taking away from any vet from that time. BUT what do we expect to yank someone out of their place that they don't have any calling to leave and throw them into a mess like Viet Nam.

Our military is being used far too many times for profit and not national security.

 

[Hunh Bruh]

How many of you who want a draft served? Seriously

 

[SeventhSon]

I wouldn't trade my time in the military for the world. That being said, I would never have wanted conscripts serving beside me. We had enough shitheads volunteer to be there. I'd hate to see what would happen if every swinging pecker was forced to serve.