DHS and ICE buying 450m rounds of .223 and .40sw

[Mr.Squatch]

That's a lot of ammo for a department that operates primarily within our borders. Who's going to be on the wrong end of this many rounds? Sounds like they're preparing for something.

http://www.businessinsider.com/us-i...078_22333699_10150718259894078#fcd048565af1e4

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[JBP55]

Repeat X 2..

 

[jimdana1942]

That's a lot of ammo for a department that operates primarily within our borders. Who's going to be on the wrong end of this many rounds? Sounds like they're preparing for something.

http://www.businessinsider.com/us-i...078_22333699_10150718259894078#fcd048565af1e4

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Everbiody in Govt. has been preparing for a number of decades. Very soon, it looks like the SW(will)B(be)H(ing, plural)TF.

 

[Mjolnir]

That's a lot of ammo for a department that operates primarily within our borders. Who's going to be on the wrong end of this many rounds? Sounds like they're preparing for something.

http://www.businessinsider.com/us-i...078_22333699_10150718259894078#fcd048565af1e4

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Preparing for the FABRICATED AND PLANNED UNREST IN SEVERAL MAJOR CITIES AT ONCE; PROBABLY IN CONJUNCTION WITB AN ECONOMIC COLLAPSE.


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[S&W4ME]

They're just being proactive and buying before the price increase when Obama gets reelected in the fall

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[IfItFliesItDies]

Considering just the .223 aspect:
If you average soldier overseas carries 8 fully loaded 30 round mags for his M16/M4 he's carrying 240 rounds. With 175 million rounds they could arm 729,166 men in the same manner.

The DHS has 216,000 employees and ICE has only 20,546. Total that's 236,546 employees. Assuming every employee is a field agent, both these agencies could fully arm them 3 times over.

I can't imagine why these agencies would need such a massive amount of ammunition.

Well, I can, but the reason why isn't good for any of us.

At least this could explain why .40 and .223 prices have been so high lately.

 

[Knave]

If 100,000 agents shoot 1,000 rounds a year each in training, the ammo would run out in just a few years.

 

[USMC-Deano]

Considering just the .223 aspect:
If you average soldier overseas carries 8 fully loaded 30 round mags for his M16/M4 he's carrying 240 rounds. With 175 million rounds they could arm 729,166 men in the same manner.

The DHS has 216,000 employees and ICE has only 20,546. Total that's 236,546 employees. Assuming every employee is a field agent, both these agencies could fully arm them 3 times over.

I can't imagine why these agencies would need such a massive amount of ammunition.

Well, I can, but the reason why isn't good for any of us.

At least this could explain why .40 and .223 prices have been so high lately.

An Air Force deployed loadout is 210 rounds. IDK about the other branches, however. But, no I agree that it probably isn't good for any of us.

 

[JBP55]

A five year contract at 90M per year does not sound as bad a 450M at once.
At the number of rounds per man quoted above I could arm many men with handgun rounds.

 

[nickatnite]

If 100,000 agents shoot 1,000 rounds a year each in training, the ammo would run out in just a few years.

True...

But if they only shoot 60 rds a year (bare min, once a year qualify), it will last a LOT longer...

 

[Taiaut]

I want the tin foil concession.

 

[Mojo Rider]

I don't shoot .40 anymore but I have 1200 9mm and 2100 5.56.....after reading this I'm starting to feel insufficiently loaded.

 

[Who dat]

They qual each quarter - 4x's a year. 50 rd course and I'm sure they shoot more than once a quarter and other drills. Do the math.

 

[Mjolnir]

I do have copies of portions of the RFQ. I'll post what the breakdown is - some is FMJ and some is "Enhanced" if I recall correctly.

 

[tso]

This assumes they are using the HST for training ammunition as well as duty use.

That, I highly doubt
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They do...my office is next to the fed ranges in Slidell....the garbage cans are full of the boxes. Only the local LEO's use practice ammo on the ranges.

Steve

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[Who dat]

They shoot all duty loads during range time. Frange if called for at no toxic ranges.

 

[Mr.Squatch]

If ammo was free, I'd practice with what I carry as well.