Getting on the Glock bandwagon
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Agreed . Some of our friends and family thought it odd that my wife and I purchased burial plots when we were in our mid thirty's . Now they are paid for , and the kids wont have to deal with that .
LSP,
There can be NO denying that you and Rick ran a firearms training program that was far superior to what most agencies do.
You had a great effect on the enthusiasm level when you were piloting the boat.
And I agree with the cost and attitude point leading to the proliferation of these pistols.
But I also think the decline in the overall quality of many (not all) of those becoming LEOs today adds to said indifference.
As I've said before,
The Glock is the Ford Escort of the gun world.
There are millions of them out there and everybody can drive one.
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There can be NO denying that you and Rick ran a firearms training program that was far superior to what most agencies do.
You had a great effect on the enthusiasm level when you were piloting the boat.
And I agree with the cost and attitude point leading to the proliferation of these pistols.
But I also think the decline in the overall quality of many (not all) of those becoming LEOs today adds to said indifference.
As I've said before,
The Glock is the Ford Escort of the gun world.
There are millions of them out there and everybody can drive one.
.
That 65% of law enforcement (along with the other 35%) has very little say in what their agency procures. The hard truth is, Glock under-cuts everybody on price. In extreme cases, they sweeten the deal with free accoutrements (leather gear, etc.). The fact that the pistols are good, and generally are up to the tasks they are asked to perform, means most everybody, from the bean counters to the end users on the street, are happy.
However, I am amused when someone throws out the percentage card in an attempt to show that Glocks are "better" (not saying you did this, FD807... but it happens fairly regularly). Glocks have had their share of fleas; witness the Gen IV controversies. The Gen IV pistol was a direct result of the Indiana State Police fiasco; and ISP wasn't the only agency to experience the issues they did. They just made too much noise for Glock to ignore or play down... which Glock ALWAYS make an effort to do.
The bottom line is, that with a few glaring exceptions like the Sig P250, most of these "service" semi-autos get the job done. Which one is chosen by whom usually boils down to which manufacturer cuts the best deal. An excellent example of that is when State Police FTU first looked into switching to Glocks. Sig got wind of it and dispatched a suit down here who went directly to the big colonel with a helluva deal. The result was that State Police stayed with Sig for another five years.
The man who made that decision could tell a Glock from a HiPoint two out of three times; on a good day. IWO, he could not have cared less WHAT "his boys" carried.
There is another side to this coin. I still see quite a few troopers, many of whom I am personally acquainted with. I make it a point to ask them how they like their Glocks. The majority reaction is... indifference. Its a company gun (i.e., they didn't have to pay for it), it works, what else do you want to know?
This lack of enthusiasm has always been an enigma to "gun guys" who don't understand the cop mentality. And while I don't have "my finger on the pulse" like I used to, this lackadaisical attitude seems to be more prevalent than when I was heavily involved in things. Not trying to say that I had any effect on it; but there can be NO denying that a different breed of individual is, in many cases, wearing the uniform today.
The point of all that is, I believe these two factors- cost, and the "I don't care what you give me" attitude amongst the troopies- have contributed mightily to the rise of the VolksPistole. That's my pet term for Glocks; it means "the people's gun', loosely translated... anyone can make it work.
Hey, I've got some; come next year, one of them will 20 years old. But don't try to tell me the pistol is most prevalent in LE holsters because of its superiority.
I know better...
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Boy does this hit the nail on the head. Not just amongst troopers...
