Help with 9mm (9x19) reload

[Ivan]

Hello all, I am in need of some advice with reloading some bullets and powder I picked up for my ruger 9mm P89. I have some 124gr LRN bayou bullets and IMR SR 7625 powder. I've searched thru my Speer #10 and #14, hornady 8th, and a complete reloading manual for the 9mm Luger by load book. I cannot find any load data for this combo of bullet and powder, I've even gone to several on-line resources with no luck. The info I did see in my books is a little confusing, as far as bullet seat depth, some put he case above the top ridge on the bullet and others in the center groove. I did make a dummy round and seated the bullet to 1.125" which is at the top of the ridge on the bullet. I cycled the round thru my pistol several times, cycles perfectly with no flaws. I am vaguely thinking of starting at 3.7-4.0 gr of powder and trying like 5 rounds to see how they preform. I do not have a chrono so judging velocity is out. The only way I can check is by case inspection and bullet grouping. If anyone has some info on this setup for powder/bullet combo I could really use some help. Thank you

 

[scout019]

I do not re-load 9mm but I did find load data on the IMR site:
http://www.imrpowder.com/pdf/IMR_handgun.pdf

Not sure if it helps, but it might provide a starting point for you. I was able to find 124 grain with your powder in the table. Although with so many variables it may not exactly match your set-up.

 

[Ivan]

I do not re-load 9mm but I did find load data on the IMR site:
http://www.imrpowder.com/pdf/IMR_handgun.pdf

Not sure if it helps, but it might provide a starting point for you. I was able to find 124 grain with your powder in the table. Although with so many variables it may not exactly match your set-up.

Thank you, I did see that, however it is for a fmj round, kind of frustrating when you step out of your norm and get different powder and bullets that your not used to reloading. I did load and fire 5 at 4gr and 5 more at 4.3gr, no pressure signs and functioned good, not to accurate with the 4gr load. I may if I end up not liking this powder to give my plants some fertilizer lol.

 

[dmh]

Invest in a chronograph to know for sure, worth the expense and time.

 

[LSUSMC]

Invest in a chronograph to know for sure, worth the expense and time.

I run every rifle load I develop through a chrono, a must have IMO.

 

[Mac 1]

Ivan, I am like you, I have been using strickly FMJ bullets. I bought some copper plated lead (115 grain) and after talking to some of the old time reloaders, I loaded using the low end of the call out for FMJ. Say for instance, you would normally load a 115 grain FMJ between 3.5 and 4.5 grains of Win 231. Start out low (3.5) and try them. Up the amount if you have to get correct feed and ejection. Same with the lead bullets, start out on the low side 3.5 and see what you get. Mine worked fine on the low side of the measurement.

 

[scooterj]

Velocity will be higher with the Bayou Bullet than with the listed fmj.
I use 7625 with 115gr Ranier plated bullets and have always had good luck with it. Bayou bullets will be used when the Raniers run out.

 

[Ivan]

Thanks everyone, I know a chrono is worth every penny, just never invested in one yet. I'm really used to loading fmj and plated bullets, pure lead is a whole new cheaper way to go IMO. Trying it out, so far it's working ok, still need to adjust seating depth, and charge amount.

 

[wlonidi]

Another good online link is: http://www.imrpowder.com/
It covers IMR, Hodgdon and Winchester powders.
Shows 125gr LCN (Lead Conical Nose)
C.O.L. - 1.125"
Starting Load - 3.6 Grs. @ 933 ft/s
Max Load - 4.1 Grs. @ 1035 ft/s
Hope this helps.

 

[Ivan]

Another good online link is: http://www.imrpowder.com/
It covers IMR, Hodgdon and Winchester powders.
Shows 125gr LCN (Lead Conical Nose)
C.O.L. - 1.125"
Starting Load - 3.6 Grs. @ 933 ft/s
Max Load - 4.1 Grs. @ 1035 ft/s
Hope this helps.

Yes that help too, I completely forgot about the hodgdon data reloading center. Thank you

 

[Ivan]

Ok, I have great news!!! I finally was able to go shoot today. I loaded up 60 rounds. Started with 3 gr and went up in incriminates of .2gr up to a total of 4 g. Found out that my pistol hates 3 gr - 3.6 gr. would not cycle at all. 3.8 cycled ok but the spent shell just dropped at my feet. At 4 gr the pistol cycled perfectly and the spent shells ejected like a normal round. Freaking awesome. Without having a chrono I think I may stop at 4 gr. I may try 4-4.1 or 4.2 I'm not sure, I do like the bullet grouping at 4 gr and again it did function perfectly. Also no pressure signs at all that I could tell. Kind of stoked, never played with reloading like this before, I've always been able to look in my books and get a recipe that works great, not in this case. Just wanted to give an update. Again thank y'all for your advice and input much appreciated.

 

[noylj]

Bullet Weight Powder Weight Velocity Note P.F. COL

L-RN 121 SR7625 3.0 852 Start 103
L-RN 121 SR7625 3.5 935 Start 113
LCN 125 SR7625 3.6 933 Start 117 1.125
L-CFN 124 SR7625 3.6 948 Start 118
L-RN 125 SR7625 3.7 1020 Start 128
Magma L-RN 126 SR7625 3.7 919 Acc 116 1.110
Hdy swaged Lead 124 SR7625 3.7 895 111 1.130
L-RN 121 SR7625 3.8 950 Start 115
L-RN 121 SR7625 3.9 1095 Max 132
Rainier FMJ-FP 124 SR7625 4.0 921 Start 114
Rainier FMJ-RN 124 SR7625 4.0 880 Start 109
Magma L-RN 126 SR7625 4.0 1023 Acc 129 1.110
SAECO L-SWC 125 SR7625 4.0 977 Acc 122 1.090
LCN 125 SR7625 4.1 1035 Max 129 1.125
L-CFN 124 SR7625 4.1 1067 Max 132
L-RN 125 SR7625 4.1 1043 Max 130
Hdy swaged Lead 124 SR7625 4.2 1007 Acc 125 1.130
Alberts swaged Lead 125 SR7625 4.2 948 119 1.110
Bayou Bullet 125 SR7625 4.2 0 1.150
Bayou Bullet 125 SR7625 4.2 0 1.150
L-CFP 121 SR7625 4.3 1080 Max 131
L-RN 121 SR7625 4.3 1080 Max 131
Magma L-RN 126 SR7625 4.3 1063 Max 134 1.110
L-RN 121 SR7625 4.4 1100 Max 133
Bayou Bullet 125 SR7625 4.4 0 1.150
Bayou Bullet 125 SR7625 4.4 0 1.150
Bayou Bullet 125 SR7625 4.6 0 1.150
Bayou Bullet 125 SR7625 4.6 0 1.150
Bayou Bullet 125 SR7625 4.8 0 1.150
Bayou Bullet 125 SR7625 4.8 0 1.150
Rainier FMJ-FP 124 SR7625 5.2 1099 Max 136
Rainier FMJ-RN 124 SR7625 5.3 1094 Max 136

 

[Ivan]

Bullet Weight Powder Weight Velocity Note P.F. COL

L-RN 121 SR7625 3.0 852 Start 103
L-RN 121 SR7625 3.5 935 Start 113
LCN 125 SR7625 3.6 933 Start 117 1.125
L-CFN 124 SR7625 3.6 948 Start 118
L-RN 125 SR7625 3.7 1020 Start 128
Magma L-RN 126 SR7625 3.7 919 Acc 116 1.110
Hdy swaged Lead 124 SR7625 3.7 895 111 1.130
L-RN 121 SR7625 3.8 950 Start 115
L-RN 121 SR7625 3.9 1095 Max 132
Rainier FMJ-FP 124 SR7625 4.0 921 Start 114
Rainier FMJ-RN 124 SR7625 4.0 880 Start 109
Magma L-RN 126 SR7625 4.0 1023 Acc 129 1.110
SAECO L-SWC 125 SR7625 4.0 977 Acc 122 1.090
LCN 125 SR7625 4.1 1035 Max 129 1.125
L-CFN 124 SR7625 4.1 1067 Max 132
L-RN 125 SR7625 4.1 1043 Max 130
Hdy swaged Lead 124 SR7625 4.2 1007 Acc 125 1.130
Alberts swaged Lead 125 SR7625 4.2 948 119 1.110
Bayou Bullet 125 SR7625 4.2 0 1.150
Bayou Bullet 125 SR7625 4.2 0 1.150
L-CFP 121 SR7625 4.3 1080 Max 131
L-RN 121 SR7625 4.3 1080 Max 131
Magma L-RN 126 SR7625 4.3 1063 Max 134 1.110
L-RN 121 SR7625 4.4 1100 Max 133
Bayou Bullet 125 SR7625 4.4 0 1.150
Bayou Bullet 125 SR7625 4.4 0 1.150
Bayou Bullet 125 SR7625 4.6 0 1.150
Bayou Bullet 125 SR7625 4.6 0 1.150
Bayou Bullet 125 SR7625 4.8 0 1.150
Bayou Bullet 125 SR7625 4.8 0 1.150
Rainier FMJ-FP 124 SR7625 5.2 1099 Max 136
Rainier FMJ-RN 124 SR7625 5.3 1094 Max 136

That's some good info noylj, thank you