HK need info

[jackthewack18]

Im looking into buying a Hk the ones im looking at are the p30L, usp, and hk45. Any info would be nice thank you.

 

[JumpmanUSC]

Exactly what type of info do you need?

 

[Tulse Luper]

Im looking into buying a Hk the ones im looking at are the p30L, usp, and hk45. Any info would be nice thank you.

The three best handguns in the world, though I'd stick with the P30 over the P30L.

 

[Tulse Luper]

Also, if you buy an HK, make sure it is a LEM trigger equipped gun (at the very least try both their SA/DA and LEM side by side). The DA trigger pull is abominable on their SA/DA pistols. They might be fine for someone who has a massive amount of training on one ---I'm not talking about I was issued a M9 type of training, either--- so be wary of that.

HK has not imported any LEM P30L without a safety, so it's a no-go if you want to use it in competitions (production division) without having to sweep a safety. HK got it right the first time with the safety-less LEM. Why it's on the long slides is a mystery so far.

 

[jackthewack18]

jumpman i would like to know what you know about the guns and personal opinions. thank you Tulse i will definitely take that into consideration.

 

[RyanW]

I have 3, a p7, usp hydrid (combat competition) trigger w safety selector, and a usp lem, all 9mm. My hybrid started life as a v1, and I had hk convert it last year. I prefer the fullsize usp and hk45 because they fit my grip very well, I like the p2000sk as well, just haven't been able to find one to buy in v1. The p7 is fun and ready neat, and shoots incredibly well, but they can be pricey.

Either lem or combat competition trigger groups would suit pretty much anybody, very nice triggers, I personally don't like the standard v1 trigger on the usp now that I have the other setups, but before the change it was fine for me, just a bit stiff in da. What else do you want to know?

 

[thomjb]

P30 fits my hand the best, but my EDC is a P2000 LEM in 9mm. Tried the P2000SK, but the grip was just to short for me.
HK's always work, at least IMHO. Best Wishes on your quest.

 

[jackthewack18]

thank you ryan i would also like to know how the shot paterns look and is it worth the price. And thank you thomjb

 

[RyanW]

I connect the dots at 10yds, and I'm a terrible shot. Yes its worth the price, there are a few other brands that have intrigued me, but after shooting hk's, I can't bring myself to take a step down.

 

[JDaviz]

^^^ This. I've heard this question come up many times before and this is probably the best answer I've seen yet.

 

[RyanW]

The "shot paterns" depend entirely on the person pulling the trigger. HKs have more inherent accuracy than most. Rest assured that any HK will shoot straighter than you can hold it.

Worth the price? Again, that's up to you. Why do folks drive (and pay for) beemers and other big-buck european cars when a Yugo or Chevrolet will provide more than adequate transportation? HKs have panache, class, style, whatever you want to call a level of quality that puts them a step above the average tool. Many folks scoff at this, and that is their priviledge. Glocks, M&Ps, Serbo Croat Specials, and a few other brands of perfectly good pistols exist to satisfy the masses... and the haters.

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I was waiting for you to chime in on this one lol


^^He is my reference for how consistent I can shoot. Note I said consistent, not accurate lol. I won't hit where I'm aiming but I can easily hit the same spot several times lol

 

[goteron]

Dont forget you can become an member of the elite group HK hates....

 

[jackthewack18]

My mistake i should have asked if it was capable of competition shooting sorry guys im new to this but am growing more interested in guns and shooting by the day. And Ryan i am not that good a shot as well i just hope to be some day it is only my first year hope it will be improved next year. oh and can anyone tell me why my rifle accuracy has increased dramatically and my pistol accuracy has not seemed to increase at all.

 

[RyanW]

Imho, they are fairly unrelated shooting methods. Pistols require more muscle support and rifles require more breathing control and bone support. I am very comfortable with rifles, and far more confident than I am with pistols. I just set my bone super, sight alignment, sight picture, breathing control, and slow steady squeeze, boom, dead target.

If you want a USP 9mm, lem, w/night sights, let me know, I have an extra with all of 15rds fired through it, and I'll make you a god deal

 

[jackthewack18]

Pm sent

 

[biggin215]

 

[jackthewack18]

Thats hilarious

 

[RyanW]

Backwards loading is a long running joke for hk. That brochure was done by an ad firm, and they released it late, causing hk to receive them at the shot show, and thus unvieling it in all its glory

 

[JumpmanUSC]

jumpman i would like to know what you know about the guns and personal opinions. thank you Tulse i will definitely take that into consideration.

I have shot all three, though I only own the USP. In fact, I own a USPC9 and USPC45 Tac. Like what most have said, I would definitely consider a version with the LEM trigger. My personal hangup about getting the HK45 and P30 is that I would also have to buy barrels for them to mount the cans on

 

[Tulse Luper]

I have shot all three, though I only own the USP. In fact, I own a USPC9 and USPC45 Tac. Like what most have said, I would definitely consider a version with the LEM trigger. My personal hangup about getting the HK45 and P30 is that I would also have to buy barrels for them to mount the cans on

For the P30 you'd have to have one made by a company like Tornado Tech. Stinks. There ain't no OEM.