People need to understand

[LSUh20fowler]

This is an article in our local paper. If you read down the list of number items, they are very disturbing to me. If this goes through, I'll be real close to drawing the line as to dealing with the government. I'm currently installing a chin strap on my tin foil hat for when the **** hits the fan.

http://www.villeplattetoday.com/content/health-care-democrat-style

 

[Saftman]

Doesn't look good. Might be the beginning of the end if that c@## passes.

 

[T&TGu]

It will never get passed

 

[senseiturtle]

It will never get passed

That's what I call.. "Hope."

 

[Baldrik78]

Apparently villeplattetoday.com is either too stupid or too apathetic to bother with any fact checking. An independent source has gone through the bill and showed that over half that list is completely false and most of rest are only half truths. Very few items were actually true.

If I can find it, I'll repost the link I put in one of the other 10,000 threads on healthcare.

 

[BRLAShooter]

Apparently villeplattetoday.com is either too stupid or too apathetic to bother with any fact checking. An independent source has gone through the bill and showed that over half that list is completely false and most of rest are only half truths. Very few items were actually true.

If I can find it, I'll repost the link I put in one of the other 10,000 threads on healthcare.

Honestly, whether that list is true or not, .gov healthcare is a HORRIBLE idea. As much money as the .gov wastes, and as inefficient as they are, this will be a disaster which will only put us farther into debt and closer to Cuba(?), who's healthcare program is one of the worst in the world.

 

[Ske1etor]

I will tell you guys why the government run healthcare is a bad idea...
Not because of supposed death panels, rationing or even cost.... the reason government run healthcare is a bad idea because you don't want the government running healthcare. Period.

That is it.

A government big enough to give you everything you need is big enough to take everything you have. Gerald Mother-effin' Ford

 

[jimdana1942]

What no one really sees or knows is what is written in the Bill in DISAPPEARING INK that will miraculously appear after the bill passes.

Things such as everyone over 55 will be "Soylent Greened", anyone disabled will be "Soylent Greened", everyones entire paycheck will have to be sent to the Govt. each month and the Govt. will give you back what they think you need, Healthcare will be meted out based in this order:
First---Illegal aliens
Second--those already on Welfare and Govt. aid
Third---anyone who didn't finish school
fourth--Newly Americanized citizens
Fifth---Convicts and criminals
Sixth---everybody else

 

[ryan]

i think the end of life counseling is a joke!

 

[Jimmy Dean]

Here is one reason the .gov should not be running healthcare: USPS

 

[BRLAShooter]

Here is one reason the .gov should not be running healthcare: USPS

I gotta agree w/ Jimmy...

 

[D-DAY]

Here is one reason the .gov should not be running healthcare: USPS

Add to that: Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security

 

[goodburbon]

Add to that: Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security

Add to that DMV, IRS, and AMTRAK

 

[oleheat]

Thanks for the link, Dennis. I just forwarded that to everyone on my e-mail list.....

 

[Gumbo]

Here is one reason the .gov should not be running healthcare: USPS

Ironically, Dear Leader pointed this out himself while attempting to prove that private option and public option could coexist.

 

[Baldrik78]

Here is one reason the .gov should not be running healthcare: USPS

The USPS is not a goverment organization.

 

[Gumbo]

The Board of Governors of the United States Postal Service sets policy, procedure, and postal rates for services rendered, and has a similar role to a corporate board of directors. Of the eleven members of the Board, nine are appointed by the President and confirmed by the United States Senate (see 39 U.S.C. § 202). The nine appointed members then select the United States Postmaster General, who serves as the board's tenth member, and who oversees the day to day activities of the service as Chief Executive Officer (see 39 U.S.C. § 202–203). The ten-member board then nominates a Deputy Postmaster General, who acts as Chief Operating Officer, to the eleventh and last remaining open seat.

The USPS is often mistaken for a government-owned corporation (e.g., Amtrak), but as noted above is legally defined as an "independent establishment of the executive branch of the Government of the United States," (39 U.S.C. § 201) as it is wholly owned by the government and controlled by the Presidential appointees and the Postmaster General. As a quasi-governmental agency, it has many special privileges, including sovereign immunity, eminent domain powers, powers to negotiate postal treaties with foreign nations, and an exclusive legal right to deliver first-class and third-class mail. Indeed, in 2004, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled in a unanimous decision that the USPS was not a government-owned corporation, and therefore could not be sued under the Sherman Antitrust Act.[16] The U.S. Supreme Court has also upheld the USPS's statutory monopoly on access to letterboxes against a First Amendment freedom of speech challenge; it thus remains illegal in the U.S. for anyone other than the employees and agents of the USPS to deliver mailpieces to letterboxes marked "U.S. Mail."[17]

 

[Gumbo]

It's not a government corporation, but is in fact a government agency.

 

[goodburbon]

Isn't this even scarier than the alternative? A government run agency with no accountability?

The Board of Governors of the United States Postal Service sets policy, procedure, and postal rates for services rendered, and has a similar role to a corporate board of directors. Of the eleven members of the Board, nine are appointed by the President and confirmed by the United States Senate (see 39 U.S.C. § 202). The nine appointed members then select the United States Postmaster General, who serves as the board's tenth member, and who oversees the day to day activities of the service as Chief Executive Officer (see 39 U.S.C. § 202–203). The ten-member board then nominates a Deputy Postmaster General, who acts as Chief Operating Officer, to the eleventh and last remaining open seat.

The USPS is often mistaken for a government-owned corporation (e.g., Amtrak), but as noted above is legally defined as an "independent establishment of the executive branch of the Government of the United States," (39 U.S.C. § 201) as it is wholly owned by the government and controlled by the Presidential appointees and the Postmaster General. As a quasi-governmental agency, it has many special privileges, including sovereign immunity, eminent domain powers, powers to negotiate postal treaties with foreign nations, and an exclusive legal right to deliver first-class and third-class mail. Indeed, in 2004, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled in a unanimous decision that the USPS was not a government-owned corporation, and therefore could not be sued under the Sherman Antitrust Act.[16] The U.S. Supreme Court has also upheld the USPS's statutory monopoly on access to letterboxes against a First Amendment freedom of speech challenge; it thus remains illegal in the U.S. for anyone other than the employees and agents of the USPS to deliver mailpieces to letterboxes marked "U.S. Mail."[17]