Police supervisor pleads guilty in Danziger Bridge probe;

[dzelenka]

The father of an old friend of mine used to tell us that one boy has one brain, two boys come together to form a half of a brain, three boys come together for a quarter of a brain....

Hey Bubba! Watch this!

 

[Bayoupiper]

We joke about the old addage of a "throw down" weapon.
And in years past, it did happen.

I want to believe that law enforcement has grown up and moved well past the days of throw downs and choir practices.
Yet time and time again, I am left feeling embarrassed by the actions of some (read very few) of my fellow LEOs.


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[crazy white boy]

NOLA Cops

You have good cops and you have bad cops that give all cops a bad name I have met few New Orleans Cops that did not have a horrible attitude honestly. I had one argue nose to nose with a State Trooper that he was taking my brother to jail for moving a house trailer through Orleans Parish without a Police escort and the State Trooper was the escort. Every house trailer that passes through Orleans Parish is required to pull over on I-10 and wait on a police escort and you have to pay them 200.00 in cash for them to roll you to the parish line for what? I had a female officer stop me on I-10 in New Orleans East and write me a ticket for speeding and no seatbelt. I told her that I was wearing my seatbelt I work in Safety and she told me that I had exited my vehicle therefore she had not seen me with it on. I told her I had no problem with signing the speeding ticket but I was wearing my seatbelt she explained that if I did not sign the ticket her exact words I am taking your white ass to jail. I signed the ticket and called internal affairs they asked if I had a witness I told them no I was alone they said well it is your word against hers and would not take a statement. No matter what went on after Katrina all jobs have hazards associated with them if they can not handle the job or the stress then find another profession but it is no excuse for shooting an un armed mentally challenged person I dont care who you are. I think the NOPD needs a good cleansing and Jim Letten is hold the enima bag and ready.

 

[Bearco]

I am hoping that the "throw down" came from when they were confiscating firearms and not that they were that prepared for a cover up.

 

[VeedUp]

I can't believe some of **** I'm reading, you people have some f-ed up issues with the police. Do you not remember the havoc that went on the days after Katrina, the lawlessness savages raping, killing, and pilliaging everywhere. The looting that went on before the levee broke and the water rose. Oh when people had the chance to still drive out, they where too busy looting. It was a mandatory evacuation, who stayed and why, what went on that bridge only the ones there really know. I doubt officers where out shooting people in cold blood, it was something that nobody was trained for. I'm sure alot of people were scared, thugs doing what ever they wanted. If you get shot where u going to go? Sorry for the rant but not many stayed for the right reasons and now seven good men are being railroaded over some civil rights bull ****, sorry but I find it hard to believe those poeple were just ambushed for no reason, in an emergency situation your instinct isn't to start shooting for no reason at people on top of a bridge without being shot at first, someone started shooting at them in order to return fire. They had to suspend helo rescue because people were getting fustrated and shooting at helocoptors. So it's hard to say who is at fault without being there put in that situation. Cops just didn't decide tostart shooting people on bridges for no reason. Get your **** together before you judge and convict them guys for puttin in work during the worst catastrophic emergency in that citys history. Hell they could had left like everyone else, probably wish they would have now.

 

[Nolacopusmc]

I am hoping that the "throw down" came from when they were confiscating firearms and not that they were that prepared for a cover up.

From what I understand, the throw gun came a few days after the incident.

 

[f350drvr]

Every house trailer that passes through Orleans Parish is required to pull over on I-10 and wait on a police escort and you have to pay them 200.00 in cash for them to roll you to the parish line for what? .

Pretty sure that is the city council, not the NOPD.

 

[f350drvr]

I can't believe some of **** I'm reading, you people have some f-ed up issues with the police. Do you not remember the havoc that went on the days after Katrina, the lawlessness savages raping, killing, and pilliaging everywhere. The looting that went on before the levee broke and the water rose. Oh when people had the chance to still drive out, they where too busy looting. It was a mandatory evacuation, who stayed and why, what went on that bridge only the ones there really know. I doubt officers where out shooting people in cold blood, it was something that nobody was trained for. I'm sure alot of people were scared, thugs doing what ever they wanted. If you get shot where u going to go? Sorry for the rant but not many stayed for the right reasons and now seven good men are being railroaded over some civil rights bull ****, sorry but I find it hard to believe those poeple were just ambushed for no reason, in an emergency situation your instinct isn't to start shooting for no reason at people on top of a bridge without being shot at first, someone started shooting at them in order to return fire. They had to suspend helo rescue because people were getting fustrated and shooting at helocoptors. So it's hard to say who is at fault without being there put in that situation. Cops just didn't decide tostart shooting people on bridges for no reason. Get your **** together before you judge and convict them guys for puttin in work during the worst catastrophic emergency in that citys history. Hell they could had left like everyone else, probably wish they would have now.

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[crazy white boy]

I can't believe some of **** I'm reading, you people have some f-ed up issues with the police. Do you not remember the havoc that went on the days after Katrina, the lawlessness savages raping, killing, and pilliaging everywhere. The looting that went on before the levee broke and the water rose. Oh when people had the chance to still drive out, they where too busy looting. It was a mandatory evacuation, who stayed and why, what went on that bridge only the ones there really know. I doubt officers where out shooting people in cold blood, it was something that nobody was trained for. I'm sure alot of people were scared, thugs doing what ever they wanted. If you get shot where u going to go? Sorry for the rant but not many stayed for the right reasons and now seven good men are being railroaded over some civil rights bull ****, sorry but I find it hard to believe those poeple were just ambushed for no reason, in an emergency situation your instinct isn't to start shooting for no reason at people on top of a bridge without being shot at first, someone started shooting at them in order to return fire. They had to suspend helo rescue because people were getting fustrated and shooting at helocoptors. So it's hard to say who is at fault without being there put in that situation. Cops just didn't decide tostart shooting people on bridges for no reason. Get your **** together before you judge and convict them guys for puttin in work during the worst catastrophic emergency in that citys history. Hell they could had left like everyone else, probably wish they would have now.

I remember very well what you are talking about and that was the reason that I returned home do you rememeber the picture that was on National News of the Walmart store in New Orleans being looted and the woman officer in her New Orleans uniform watching what was going on. I remember that like it was yesterday.

 

[Baldrik78]

Not Our Problem, Dude

This made me lol

 

[VeedUp]

I remember very well what you are talking about and that was the reason that I returned home do you rememeber the picture that was on National News of the Walmart store in New Orleans being looted and the woman officer in her New Orleans uniform watching what was going on. I remember that like it was yesterday.

I still have a copy of that somewhere, shopping at the Wally world on tchopatulus. How about the ones that where filling the fifth floor of the hotel in the quarter, you know what those officers had in common besides being African American? They had their best interest in mind not the public or any citizens.

 

[VeedUp]

How bout the 67 year old woman in Metairie that survived the huricane to get killed and looted. I'm sure she didn't have much, but when you don't have to worry about the man coming.

 

[Summit_Ace]

Glad you enjoyed that little tirade. you obviously did not truly read my post and instead used it as a platform to launch your diatribe. Great one by the way.

Too much crap here for me to even address. But I will leave you with the little gem that every true cop hater loves...

Unless you were a law enforcement officer during Katrina....no matter what you may think you know, you have no idea what you are talking about. It is kinda like me talking about the Holocaust, Rodney king riots, or being in a war. there are dynamics at work that you just do not understand unless you are forced to live it from that perspective.

Other than that, great job at spouting the obvious.

Why have I not learned to expect this type of response from you? Let's say it together, just because a person says bad things about bad cops does not mean they hate cops. I am glade pulling the cop hater line is still working for you. I did read your post but I thought it worth addressing the fact that after you said it was just wrong, you almost seem to try to justify their actions or play them down. Talk about not reading posts, I notice you did not answer any of the questions I asked. I do find it a stretch to compare Katrina to the holocaust. But since you brought it up, am I to assume the millions of people who condemn the actions in the holocaust have no idea what they are talking about?

I am sure I will not get a real response to this and probably get referred to as a cop hater, but I guess it is easier to do things that way. I really need to remember that because I am not in law enforcement I really have no right to question their behavior. Thank you for reminding me of where I belong and putting me in my place.

 

[Nolacopusmc]

Why have I not learned to expect this type of response from you? Let's say it together, just because a person says bad things about bad cops does not mean they hate cops. I am glade pulling the cop hater line is still working for you. I did read your post but I thought it worth addressing the fact that after you said it was just wrong, you almost seem to try to justify their actions or play them down. Talk about not reading posts, I notice you did not answer any of the questions I asked. I do find it a stretch to compare Katrina to the holocaust. But since you brought it up, am I to assume the millions of people who condemn the actions in the holocaust have no idea what they are talking about?

I am sure I will not get a real response to this and probably get referred to as a cop hater, but I guess it is easier to do things that way. I really need to remember that because I am not in law enforcement I really have no right to question their behavior. Thank you for reminding me of where I belong and putting me in my place.

cop hater

 

[Witness]

You obviously missed the clip where the TWO uniformed Not Our Problem, Dude female officers were "shopping"; IIRC, one was actually pushing a cart through the water.

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[posse comatosis]

throw gun

Who did NOLAPD learn that hat trick from, Houston PD?

Seven cops are being stretched as a result of Lohman's testimony and some may ultimately face murder charges. Reckon he'll still be around to testify at trial?

What a way to wrap up a career in law enforcement, ratting out other cops to save his own skin and maybe have a few years of retirement after he gets out of jail. You wonder what else the guy pulled over the years.

It all reminds me of Watergate. Nobody really gave a hoot about the break in. It was the cover up that caught the public's attention and ruined Nixon as president.

 

[4sooth]

The comments about officers perjuring themselves while under oath brings to mind a statement my attorney made last week. "In 34 years of criminal defense, I have never seen anyone charged with perjury. The judge will just declare "the officers/defendants testimony is not believable".

In 16 years of volunteer police work I had occasion to go to court only rarely--but the first two times I did the officers testifying were obviously playing fast and loose with details. And the judge did just what my attorney said he had seen, "the testimony of the officers is not credible". And the defendant walked, and he was guilty. Again by trying to embellish the officers lost a case, credibility and the department was embarrassed.

 

[Kraut]

Although the media is reacting as if the truth has now been revealed, it's all still up in the air. The fact that they planted guns doesn't mean that none had been there to fire at them initially. Just as guns can get planted at scenes, guns can be taken from a scene. Certain facts about what took place will never be known. These guys will get hammered for falsifying/covering up, but I still don't see a murder conviction in this. Motive? Specific Intent? People are throwing around the term "bad shoot" and equating it to the intentions of the officers at the time of the shooting. No matter what kind of cowboy attitudes some cops may have, I find it hard to believe that SEVEN individual cops all got together and formulated murder in their hearts as a group. The circumstances surrounding this incident were for crap, and when it all shook out they possibly f*@ked up BIG TIME. Their worst mistake was trying to skew things after the fact. I say they "possibly f*@ked up" and that covering up was their worst mistake because there is still no proof any of the injured/dead were shot by mistake. Whatever guns might have been there might have left with someone before the cops secured the scene. I don't pretend to have any close or specific details of the incident, don't know distances, lines of sight at the scene, how many sighted vs. how many left at the end, etc., I'm only focusing here on the fact that their altering of some details and dropping of guns to create one impression does not automatically make the opposite impression 100% accurate. I doubt the complete story will ever be known on this incident. Should there be penalties for the dishonesty/evidence tampering? Absolutely. Those are things they apparently engaged in with definite intent. As for charges directly related to the injuries and deaths, I foresee a case being pressed, and the acts to cover imply guilt, but they don't clearly establish it. The media crucifixion surrounding the incident initially and now is exactly what these guys will cite as their reasons for doing what they did in fear of being crucified themselves if no guns were found. Guess we'll all have to wait and see in the next round.

 

[fastmover]

<joking, joking>

those people were clearly at fault; they had plenty of chances to do the right thing.

the right thing of course is to be a cop.

you have two clear choices in life; you be a cop or risk being gunned down, dogs set on you or run over by a unit. A gun or drugs will of course be place under your mangled bullet riddled corpse, because you can't do the right thing.


<joking, joking>

 

[Nolacopusmc]

Although the media is reacting as if the truth has now been revealed, it's all still up in the air. The fact that they planted guns doesn't mean that none had been there to fire at them initially. Just as guns can get planted at scenes, guns can be taken from a scene. Certain facts about what took place will never be known. These guys will get hammered for falsifying/covering up, but I still don't see a murder conviction in this. Motive? Specific Intent? People are throwing around the term "bad shoot" and equating it to the intentions of the officers at the time of the shooting. No matter what kind of cowboy attitudes some cops may have, I find it hard to believe that SEVEN individual cops all got together and formulated murder in their hearts as a group. The circumstances surrounding this incident were for crap, and when it all shook out they possibly f*@ked up BIG TIME. Their worst mistake was trying to skew things after the fact. I say they "possibly f*@ked up" and that covering up was their worst mistake because there is still no proof any of the injured/dead were shot by mistake. Whatever guns might have been there might have left with someone before the cops secured the scene. I don't pretend to have any close or specific details of the incident, don't know distances, lines of sight at the scene, how many sighted vs. how many left at the end, etc., I'm only focusing here on the fact that their altering of some details and dropping of guns to create one impression does not automatically make the opposite impression 100% accurate. I doubt the complete story will ever be known on this incident. Should there be penalties for the dishonesty/evidence tampering? Absolutely. Those are things they apparently engaged in with definite intent. As for charges directly related to the injuries and deaths, I foresee a case being pressed, and the acts to cover imply guilt, but they don't clearly establish it. The media crucifixion surrounding the incident initially and now is exactly what these guys will cite as their reasons for doing what they did in fear of being crucified themselves if no guns were found. Guess we'll all have to wait and see in the next round.

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