Powers prohibited of States Article 1 Section 10 Clause 3

[CloudStrife]

"No State, without the consent of the Legislature of the United States shall lay imposts or duties on imports or exports, nor with such consent but for the use of the treasury of the United States; nor keep troops or ships of war in time of peace; nor enter into any agreement or compact with another State, or with any foreign power; nor engage in any war, unless it shall be actually invaded by enemies, or the danger of invasion be so imminent, as not to admit of a delay, until the Legislature of the United States can be consulted."

Doesn't this allow for actions such as what AZ is doing and more? Kidnappings, murders, even US soil closed to its citizens. Sounds like an invasion to me.

 

[Mirror]

US soil closed to its citizens? Explain please?

 

[CloudStrife]

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/06/16/closes-park-land-mexico-border-americans/

 

[CloudStrife]

Correction. Murders and kidnappings aside, millions of people entering our country illegal IS an invasion, peaceful in most cases I'd say but still an invasion causing economic damage.

 

[Mirror]

Please excuse my language, but that is ****ing unacceptable. They even said in the god damn news report, "Giving a sizable chunk of Arizona BACK to Mexico." How the hell can the federal government ignore that? That isn't just peaceful invasion anymore, that's a passive war.

 

[thatwhichisnt]

I would hardly call this an invasion. I am sure what the founders meant was a military invasion, not some people coming over the border to work.

 

[Mirror]

Like I said. It's very passive, but if we are slowly losing land to another country, then it is not simply coming over the border to work.

 

[CloudStrife]

I would hardly call this an invasion. I am sure what the founders meant was a military invasion, not some people coming over the border to work.

The use of arms isn't the only way to damage a country. Our immigration laws are being broken on a massive scale.

 

[Paintball]

It is going to take a combination of taking away the carrot (reducing the incentives to come here) and using a larger stick.

 

[CloudStrife]

Using a tank against an unarmed person wouldn't be a very appropriate response, would it?

 

[swamper]

Using a tank against an unarmed person wouldn't be a very appropriate response, would it?

Bulldozers work just fine.

 

[Nolacopusmc]

I would hardly call this an invasion. I am sure what the founders meant was a military invasion, not some people coming over the border to work.

So are you volunteering to pay for all the added costs placed on the taxpayer due to them"coming to work"

 

[CloudStrife]

Bulldozers work just fine.

I guess he chose a different pic. The one he had that didn't post correctly was of a cartoon national guard soldier pointing a tank barrel at Mexican guy.

 

[thatwhichisnt]

So are you volunteering to pay for all the added costs placed on the taxpayer due to them"coming to work"

Remove the cost from all tax payers.

 

[Nolacopusmc]

Remove the cost from all tax payers.

How?

 

[Paintball]

I guess he chose a different pic. The one he had that didn't post correctly was of a cartoon national guard soldier pointing a tank barrel at Mexican guy.

It was a very large stick!

 

[Mirror]

Remove the cost from all tax payers.

What is your plan to do this?

 

[Geardo]

Using a tank against an unarmed person wouldn't be a very appropriate response, would it?

Yes it would in a time of war, just like nuking a Japanese city

 

[jimdana1942]

It's a war alright. What are we gonna do about it? Evidently nothing, as a Nation.

What happened to States rights?

 

[Nolacopusmc]

It's a war alright. What are we gonna do about it? Evidently nothing, as a Nation.

What happened to States rights?

What happened to cave's rights?