Syrian War Thread- Syria Accepts Russian Proposal To Surrender Chemical Weapons

[SVT]

Just google Iran and destruction of Israel.....You should get many hits.
2n request...Just google "Iran enriching nuclear. "

I was really hoping to see the timeline of the comments/possession of nukes you were going off of.

 

[EnderMX]

Yes, I am positive. It said so on the very informative website of the truthful, liberty and peace loving muslims who are in charge of the 9/11 Million Muslim March.

Yes of course. If a ground war occurs in Syria, we should send these million muslims in first so they can show true dedication to their sand people and their jihad god Allah.

 

[dantheman]

Where is Hillary in all this ? She seems to be laying low .

 

[Vermiform]

Where is Hillary in all this ? She seems to be laying low .

The Klintons may be a lot of things but they are not stupid. This whole thing is a political minefield. I doubt that we hear anything from either of them until it is deemed an overwhelming success or it blows up in someones face. Then and only then will they take a side.

 

[dantheman]

The Klintons may be a lot of things but they are not stupid. This whole thing is a political minefield. I doubt that we hear anything from either of them until it is deemed an overwhelming success or it blows up in someones face. Then and only then will they take a side.

No doubt .

 

[tim9lives]

So...you really do not belive that Iran is trying to enrich uranium in order to weaponize it for ballistic missiles ?? Really ?

By the way...having a nuclear reactor is not the same as having a program for enrichment and also not allowing the international Atomic Energy Agency to inspect those facilities.

http://www.iaea.org/Publications/Documents/Board/2013/gov2013-27.pdf

D. Enrichment Related Activities
8. Contrary to the relevant resolutions of the Board of Governors and the Security Council, Iran has
not suspended its enrichment related activities in the declared facilities referred to below. All of these
activities are under Agency safeguards, and all of the nuclear material, installed cascades and the feed
and withdrawal stations at those facilities are subject to Agency containment and surveillance.9
9. Iran has stated that the purpose of enriching UF6 up to 5% U-235 is the production of fuel for its
nuclear facilities10 and that the purpose of enriching UF6 up to 20% U-235 is the manufacture of fuel
for research reactors.11
10. Since Iran began enriching uranium at its declared facilities, it has produced at those facilities:
 8960 kg (+689 kg since the Director General’s previous report) of UF6 enriched up to
5% U-235, of which 6357 kg (+383 kg since the Director General’s previous report) remain in
the form of UF6 enriched up to 5% U-23512 and the rest has been further processed (as detailed
in paras 18, 24, 25 and 39 below);13 and
 324 kg (+44 kg since the Director General’s previous report) of UF6 enriched up to 20% U-235,
of which 182 kg (+15 kg since the Director General’s previous report) remain in the form of
UF6 enriched up to 20% U-23514 and the rest has been further processed (as detailed in para.
48 below).

 

[dantheman]

I believe it . They could also sell the material to somebody else .

 

[EnderMX]

Israel can take care of themselves. American policy should not be dicated by the needs of Arabs and Jews who are rich enough and strong enough themselves. Israel already has nukes for deterrent purposes.

"Estimates as to the size of the Israeli nuclear arsenal vary between 75 and 400 nuclear warheads, with most estimates at less than 200 warheads. It is estimated that the Israel nuclear deterrent force has the ability to deliver them by intermediate-range ballistic missile, intercontinental ballistic missile, aircraft, and submarine-launched cruise missile." ~ Federation of American Scientists (http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/israel/nuke/)

That many nukes can destroy Iran several times over. If Israel wants to turn Iran into radioactive wasteland today, they can do it themselves.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_weapons_and_Israel

Also, I'm sick of hearing Israel saying we need to bomb Iran because over enriched uranium every single year. Seriously I heard this for at least 10 years straight already. This paper tiger is starting to get old just like WMDs.

 

[Vanilla Gorilla]

You sure about that: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...03d06f4-3b2e-11e2-9258-ac7c78d5c680_blog.html

And this was written last year when they had 6,000 to 10,000 fighters in Syria. That number could be much higher today.

You think if Assad is overthrown, these guys are going to throw down their guns and become peace loving hippies?

I think the amount and prominence of
Jihadist Fighters in Syria is greatly overstated. There are certainly Jihadist Groups and Fighters in Syria. They are there an they are real. I do not think they are the straw that stirs the drink, they aren't doing the bulk of the fighting and in fact are most active in the north of the country where they are busy trying to establish a Caliphate. Regardless Regime Change we suck at killing AQ we are stellar at...

 

[EnderMX]

I think the amount and prominence of
Jihadist Fighters in Syria is greatly overstated. There are certainly Jihadist Groups and Fighters in Syria. They are there an they are real. I do not think they are the straw that stirs the drink, they aren't doing the bulk of the fighting and in fact are most active in the north of the country where they are busy trying to establish a Caliphate. Regardless Regime Change we suck at killing AQ we are stellar at...

Fix Middle East? No man, we can't even fix Detroit.

 

[MTregre]

Also, I'm sick of hearing Israel saying we need to bomb Iran because over enriched uranium every single year. Seriously I heard this for at least 10 years straight already. This paper tiger is starting to get old just like WMDs.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, Israeli leaders don't say we should... they do however support it. And also say they will do what they need to do, as they see fit.

And yeah, Iran is not the only nation neighbor to Israel that is openly advocating for its destruction.

 

[Vanilla Gorilla]

Fix Middle East? No man, we can't even fix Detroit.

I never said we could fix the Middle East. Although that's a lot like saying we could fix Asia. I said we were good at killing AQ.

 

[tim9lives]

FWIW...I do agree with mot of you. Going into these countries and trying to introduce democracy is a super messy process. These countries in that part of the world just don't work well for us when democracy is the rule.
Egypt demonstrates that fact.....Once they voted....they elected a president who was from the Muslim Brotherhood. Look where that got us.

IMO...We would have been better off letting the CIA find new dictators to replace the bad dictators.
I have no doubt that after the initial invasion of Iraq...The USA could have found a friendly Bath Party General with Sunni ties to replace Saddam. In fact...there was some fat General who was even mentioned in the media as a possible replacement. Dismantling the military was a big mistake IMO.....It all started to turn bad once the looting began....once the army was dismantled.

Anyway....there is something to be said for paying off a friendly dictator.

 

[SpeedRacer]

 

[Vanilla Gorilla]

FWIW...I do agree with mot of you. Going into these countries and trying to introduce democracy is a super messy process. These countries in that part of the world just don't work well for us when democracy is the rule.
Egypt demonstrates that fact.....Once they voted....they elected a president who was from the Muslim Brotherhood. Look where that got us.

IMO...We would have been better off letting the CIA find new dictators to replace the bad dictators.
I have no doubt that after the initial invasion of Iraq...The USA could have found a friendly Bath Party General with Sunni ties to replace Saddam. In fact...there was some fat General who was even mentioned in the media as a possible replacement. Dismantling the military was a big mistake IMO.....It all started to turn bad once the looting began....once the army was dismantled.

Anyway....there is something to be said for paying off a friendly dictator.

Somebody watched Generation Kill. The Iraqi Army Dismantled itself.

 

[Vanilla Gorilla]

I doubt Russia could project conventional power outside
It's borders. Getting troops and tanks 1000moles from home is hard. Getting food, fuel, and ammo there is even harder. Moving wounded personnel out of theater and fresh bodies into theater is Hardest. Ecspecially when u don't own the sky or the seas. The US Army and USMC are fatigued , not incapable. The Navy and USAF are bored and have dreamed about breaking Russia for the last 60 years...

 

[SpeedRacer]

I doubt Russia could project conventional power outside
It's borders. Getting troops and tanks 1000moles from home is hard. Getting food, fuel, and ammo there is even harder. Moving wounded personnel out of theater and fresh bodies into theater is Hardest. Ecspecially when u don't own the sky or the seas. The US Army and USMC are fatigued , not incapable. The Navy and USAF are bored and have dreamed about breaking Russia for the last 60 years...

I'm out the loop on Syria. I just thought the pic was funny.

 

[Vermiform]

Somebody watched Generation Kill. The Iraqi Army Dismantled itself.

Are you questioning the stellar reputation of a Rolling Stone Magazine reporter?

 

[Vanilla Gorilla]

Uh yea.... Ask any vet who participated in the invasion about the piles of abandoned uniforms and lines of abandoned vehicles. The Iraqi Leadership knew the war was lost. They immediately began to prepare for the Civil War they knew would follow. A big part of that was preserving their Combat Power.

 

[Vermiform]

Are you questioning the stellar reputation of a Rolling Stone Magazine reporter?

Uh yea.... Ask any vet who participated in the invasion about the piles of abandoned uniforms and lines of abandoned vehicles. The Iraqi Leadership knew the war was lost. They immediately began to prepare for the Civil War they knew would follow. A big part of that was preserving their Combat Power.

Wow, if you can't trust the word of a reporter who got his start doing porn review articles for Hustler magazine, who can you trust?