Worlds first 3D-printed plastic gun

[JNieman]

No, I don't get your point. You seem to want to just come in and stick your dick in the mashed potatoes and start stirring.

So your point is that you could use other tools to make rudimentary firearms? Bravo, here's your cookie, but no one contested that.

 

[Suburbazine]

I can make a gun with just a welder. It's not like a 3D printer is such a beast of a design engine.

 

[JNieman]

I can make plenty of stuff on a 3D printer you can't make with your welder. (vice versa, as well)

While the punk at DefCad is overhyping this ****, ain't nobody involved in using additive manufacturing machines proclaiming it's completely revolutionary to anything and no one is saying it's making anything else obsolete.

 

[Bosco]

http://defcad.org/


RUH ROH

DEFCAD files are being removed from public access at the request of the US Department of Defense Trade Controls.
Until further notice, the United States government claims control of the information.

 

[Vermiform]

Need to learn how to make it fire a caseless round. Then you could theoretically use a caseless round and it would be truly undetectable. A plastic gun that fires a plastic bullet. Now that would be scary!

 

[pntbllr228]

http://defcad.org/


RUH ROH

DEFCAD files are being removed from public access at the request of the US Department of Defense Trade Controls.
Until further notice, the United States government claims control of the information.

Is this okay??

 

[doc ace]

I prefer THIS liberator;
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HAHAHAHA you would! Knees getting sore?!

 

[doc ace]

No, I don't get your point. You seem to want to just come in and stick your dick in the mashed potatoes and start stirring.

So your point is that you could use other tools to make rudimentary firearms? Bravo, here's your cookie, but no one contested that.

HAHAHAAA

 

[DR.NUMBERS]

How unexpected...

Apparently the seizure is being justified by their import/export oversight authority. They are essentially claiming that the 'export' of the schematic is the same as the export of the finished project. So now I suppose blueprints/ideas/instructions for any kind of product are subject to the same kind of rules/regs as the finished thing? Are they going to do anything about CNC schematics, or dimensional blueprints, or any other kind of thing?

Of course not, what this is really about is what they feel YOU should or should not have. Making guns is perfectly legal in this country but before it required expensive machinery and knowledge. Now it is too easy, requiring only the expensive machinery part of the equation to produce a 'gun' marginally less useful than a baseball bat.

 

[Suburbazine]

Since it's digital data I can see it being regulated by US DoS. I've got cryptography and stuff that I can't share because it would almost certainly violate some export control at any point of its journey. Crypto controls are TIGHT and certain cryptograpic elements are considered state secrets. Stuff on the internet being seized under the guise of export control is nothing new. It might be "unheard" of, but it's been happening for the last 19 years.

 

[Vsotok10]

http://defcad.org/


RUH ROH

DEFCAD files are being removed from public access at the request of the US Department of Defense Trade Controls.
Until further notice, the United States government claims control of the information.

The whole point of DEFCAD's exercise was to circumvent the governments ability to control who can posses a gun - Big Brother just validated DEFCAD's justification for existence. Luckily, once files are being torrented there is no way to control their distribution. I expect the Feds will be able control these files about as well as they controlled the information being exposed by Wiki Leaks.

 

[Bosco]

The whole point of DEFCAD's exercise was to circumvent the governments ability to control who can posses a gun - Big Brother just validated DEFCAD's justification for existence. Luckily, once files are being torrented there is no way to control their distribution. I expect the Feds will be able control these files about as well as they controlled the information being exposed by Wiki Leaks.

Yea it's pretty messed up. I don't get the big deal though. There are all kinds of websites on how to make guns in the UK using pipes and whatnot. See http://thehomegunsmith.com/. Why is this whole 3D printer thing special?

 

[whitsend]

A plastic gun that fires a plastic bullet. Now that would be scary!

That would be airsoft.

(Although my sons' airsoft guns are metal.)

 

[JNieman]

Thanks to retarded politicians who watched Die Hard 2, and think the Glock 7 is real, we also have the Undetectable(Nondetectable?) Weapons Act which I doubt 99.99% of people know about, and may violate without realizing it. Hopefully people with an interest in making their own weapons will do their research a bit, first so they know what they're doing.

The 3D Printer file, while containing notes in the readme.txt file, only contains the plastic parts for obvious reasons.

 

[Vermiform]

Yea it's pretty messed up. I don't get the big deal though. There are all kinds of websites on how to make guns in the UK using pipes and whatnot. See http://thehomegunsmith.com/. Why is this whole 3D printer thing special?

Because now a geek can build one too? Point & Click baby!

 

[bayougump]

I prefer THIS liberator;
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+1

 

[JNieman]

Because now a geek can build one too? Point & Click baby!

People don't understand that it takes just as much training, learning, maintenance, practice, and operation to make a 3D Printer create accurate parts as it does to mill one from metal.

 

[Vermiform]

People don't understand that it takes just as much training, learning, maintenance, practice, and operation to make a 3D Printer create accurate parts as it does to mill one from metal.

That's not what they said on TV! They said all I need is a 486SX, a 3D printer and some shareware and I can start mass producing glocks!

 

[03protege]

Liberator pistol plans... "violates export regulations"

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...site-weapon-designs.html?ICO=most_read_module

Apparently the US state department made them take their website down due to it "violating export regulations". I'm not exactly sure what free speech, about something 100% legal, has to do with exportation but we have arrived there.

From defcard.org:
*DEFCAD files are being removed from public access at the request of the US Department of Defense Trade Controls. Until further notice, the United States government claims control of the information.*

 

[Ijaw]

Hmmm