You've been loading your AR all wrong...

[JBE]

http://www.nola.com/news/baton-roug...t_baton_rouge_parish_receiv.html#incart_river

Look at the photo that headlines the article then carefully read the caption beneath it...

See? I told you!

 

[Gator 45/70]

Yep, Big city news reporters at their best.

 

[Leonidas]

That guy is some kinda awesome. I have to use a hydrolic press when I load mine. A real pain in the neck at the range.

 

[Cochise]

That article is full of derp, but serious question: Why would any leo every need or be authorized to use night vision equipment in the course of their duties?

 

[Jack]

That article is full of derp, but serious question: Why would any leo every need or be authorized to use night vision equipment in the course of their duties?

Because crime doesn't always occur during the day or in well lit areas.

 

[Cochise]

Because crime doesn't always occur during the day or in well lit areas.

That is why we have flashlights, spotlights, searchlights, flood lights, weapon lights, every kind of light. I don't see a need for peace officers to operate clandestinely in the dark. It is their job to bring the light to any situation, both literally and metaphorically. I feel like that kind of equipment will only lead to bad practices. To my mind, night vision = clandestine/black ops, and that is something that only belongs in a war zone.

 

[bs875]

See how wrong the news is about that? That's how wrong they are about almost everything.

 

[speedster]

Rich Pedroncelli...fail.

 

[ta2d_cop]

That is why we have flashlights, spotlights, searchlights, flood lights, weapon lights, every kind of light. I don't see a need for peace officers to operate clandestinely in the dark. It is their job to bring the light to any situation, both literally and metaphorically. I feel like that kind of equipment will only lead to bad practices. To my mind, night vision = clandestine/black ops, and that is something that only belongs in a war zone.

Why do hunters need night vision?

Apparently you think "clandestine" or what we call "covert" surveillance is not necessary in modern law enforcement? Maybe we should send out press releases and Facebook and Twitter alerts whenever we plan to conduct surveillance? I'm sure that would be successful. The bad guys would probably just turn themselves and all their contraband over to us, because that's just the type of stand up people they are.

Of all the things to say cops don't need you pick NODs?!? But select fire carbines and semi auto M107s are ok?

 

[Cochise]

Why do hunters need night vision?

Apparently you think "clandestine" or what we call "covert" surveillance is not necessary in modern law enforcement? Maybe we should send out press releases and Facebook and Twitter alerts whenever we plan to conduct surveillance? I'm sure that would be successful. The bad guys would probably just turn themselves and all their contraband over to us, because that's just the type of stand up people they are.

Of all the things to say cops don't need you pick NODs?!? But select fire carbines and semi auto M107s are ok?

My main point was that I believe equipment like that could lead to bad practices. I will admit, surveillance uses didn't cross my mind until you mentioned it. In that sense, I could see a good justification for camera mounted night optics, but I am assuming the ones they are getting from this military hand-me-down program are not camera or spotting optics, rather helmet or weapon mountable NOD's. Could they be useful as cheap hand held devices? Definitely, yes. Are these tactically mountable NOD's likely to be used in inappropriate ways by an overly zealous police force? Most probably, yes.

I don't want you to think I am a 'basher. I aspire to become a policeman largely because I firmly believe there are some lines that must not be crossed by those sworn to protect and serve. There are some instances where I am not willing to accept a little security at the cost of a lot of freedom and I am prepared to stand behind these beliefs in every way.

 

[#1bambam]

That pic is showing the california bullet button.Its how you have to rig your magazine loaded guns so they will be safer.

 

[Cochise]

That pic is showing the california bullet button.Its how you have to rig your magazine loaded guns so they will be safer.

Yes, but the caption under the photo claims they are loading the bullet into the weapon.

 

[alpinehyperlite]

That article is full of derp, but serious question: Why would any leo every need or be authorized to use night vision equipment in the course of their duties?

Ever tried to find something in the woods with just a flashlight? Sure all those other things you mentioned in another post are excelent for open areas, but you get someone who bails out of their vehicle in a wooded area (like that boarders sooooo many of our roads these days) and you gotta jump into the woods and chase after them, N/V is a god send.

 

[#1bambam]

Yes, but the caption under the photo claims they are loading the bullet into the weapon.

That IS one of the needed steps when loading a AR....In cali.

 

[nolaradio]

The caption has been changed:

A plastic replica of a bullet is used to quickly remove a ammunition magazine from an assault rifle in a demonstration at the California Department of Justice in Sacramento, Calif. East Baton Rouge reportedly received 558 assault rifles from a federal Defense Department program since 2006, hundreds more than any other parish, according to data from the New York times. Livingston Parish received three helicopters and Orleans parish received 286 night vision pieces. (Rich Pedroncelli, The Associated Press)

Then at the bottom of the article:

Editor's note: An original version of the photo caption above this story incorrectly identified the plastic bullet replica as ammunition.

 

[Cochise]

Ok. I was being too narrow minded. I can admit when I'm an idiot. (happens more that it should). My thoughts were fixated on NOPD inner city police getting the equipment in the article, and then I made a blanket statement that covered a lot more than that. You both make valid points. This is why I enjoy getting in discussions here. Forces me to expand my views. I still don't like the idea of what inner city metro will likely use them for, though.

 

[MTx11B]

They most likely got old 7b's or 7d's (covers both eyes) as any grunt will tell you only the best or highest ranking get to use pvs14's (monocular) they probably should get training on the new equipment as Mraps tend to roll over and are crap vehicles for areas with small streets and it takes awhile to get used to nightvision you know with depth perception and parallax issues but clearly I need to carry a snap cap for reloading drills ...smh makes me want to offer my free time to help get these guys up to speed I also work for donuts and or coffee btw

 

[alpinehyperlite]

. I still don't like the idea of what inner city metro will likely use them for, though.

Nutria Hunting in the canals?

 

[Leonidas]

Nutria Huntington the canals?

Predictive typing is a real pain in the a$$, ain't it? I turned that crap off. Lol

 

[alpinehyperlite]

Predictive typing is a real pain in the a$$, ain't it? I turned that crap off. Lol

That plus the 16 hr shift I just finished....... Ran outa fux to give.