So...what happened?

[JWG223]

I saw this blurb on my facebook, noted that it was 0300, and decided another multi-page thread filled with controversy was in order...what happened?

http://funnie.st/308246/teens-now-vs-then/10/

Many times, I feel like I grew up in the wrong time-period. Would have had much more fun growing up in the world my father describes as his childhood. From the outside looking in, things look so much simpler in that era.

-Are there just more apples on the tree, and thus more rotten fruit, in total?
-Did social media kill out ability to go next door and actually face-to-face with a new neighbor?
-Has the welfare state consumed the drive to succeed and the schools catered to their funding, driven by welfare state mentality?
-Has the war in Vietnam somehow created a generation who were missing parents, or who's parents were somehow jaded (That WWI and WWII somehow failed to do?)
-Has desegregation, woman's rights, gay rights, minority rights, animal rights, plant rights, and all manner of social changes spawned a social guilt that has had the unintentional effect of placing people in positions they don't belong/have the qualifications to be in just because of inherent attributes of race, sex, orientation, or belief?

Does the generation from the 60's and 70's have the same feelings, except about those from the 30's and 40's, and this social march of change is nothing new?


Anyway...I was just wondering. Those photo's from the 60's and 70's just show such...normal looking people. Noone is really fat. Noone is 'roided up. Everyone seems to be very forward---for good or bad---and it just seems a lot...simpler. I didn't live it, I don't know.

 

[SVTFreak]

I swear I think it's a total sum of intelligence problem. See, I think there is only a set umber of intelligence allowed in the world. So, the more people you have the less intelligence each one gets. Therefore, people are getting stupider with each successive generation.

Your Vietnam vets children theory won't work. We are all closing in on 40 now.

 

[CEHollier]

I swear I think it's a total sum of intelligence problem. See, I think there is only a set umber of intelligence allowed in the world. So, the more people you have the less intelligence each one gets. Therefore, people are getting stupider with each successive generation.

Your Vietnam vets children theory won't work. We are all closing in on 40 now.

Another theory for you. The Laws of Darwin has been circumvented by the government. Educated people are having fewer children because they are so expensive. Uneducated people are having more because they are subsidized by the educated working people. In nature the stupid, slow, and lazy were weeded out by nature and died. No more. The government feeds, houses, and provides health care to them now. At the expense of the educated working population which are having fewer children because they pay for everyone's folly. It's just a theory but seems top be holding true.

 

[SVTFreak]

Another theory for you. The Laws of Darwin has been circumvented by the government. Educated people are having fewer children because they are so expensive. Uneducated people are having more because they are subsidized by the educated working people. In nature the stupid, slow, and lazy were weeded out by nature and died. No more. The government feeds, houses, and provides health care to them now. At the expense of the educated working population which are having fewer children because they pay for everyone's folly. It's just a theory but seems top be holding true.

That theory holds water. Maybe more plausible than mine. Or a combo of both lol.

Btw, CE, the car is here...

 

[CEHollier]

That theory holds water. Maybe more plausible than mine. Or a combo of both lol.

Btw, CE, the car is here...

I would love to see it. BTW - Chris wants to supercharge his 5.0 so bad. He's building a house and can't. LOL

 

[Cat]

Green grass and all that.

 

[JNieman]

I haven't had my coffee yet so I'm not going to politely refute your claim, but it is very much tied to the things you /usually/ whine about. Confirmation bias. You /want/ to think things are shitty - you /persist/ in focusing on the negative.

This picture is a perfect metaphor of the "problems" y'all bitchin' 'bout:

 

[JR1572]

I saw this blurb on my facebook, noted that it was 0300, and decided another multi-page thread filled with controversy was in order...what happened?

http://funnie.st/308246/teens-now-vs-then/10/

Many times, I feel like I grew up in the wrong time-period. Would have had much more fun growing up in the world my father describes as his childhood. From the outside looking in, things look so much simpler in that era.

-Are there just more apples on the tree, and thus more rotten fruit, in total?
-Did social media kill out ability to go next door and actually face-to-face with a new neighbor?
-Has the welfare state consumed the drive to succeed and the schools catered to their funding, driven by welfare state mentality?
-Has the war in Vietnam somehow created a generation who were missing parents, or who's parents were somehow jaded (That WWI and WWII somehow failed to do?)
-Has desegregation, woman's rights, gay rights, minority rights, animal rights, plant rights, and all manner of social changes spawned a social guilt that has had the unintentional effect of placing people in positions they don't belong/have the qualifications to be in just because of inherent attributes of race, sex, orientation, or belief?

Does the generation from the 60's and 70's have the same feelings, except about those from the 30's and 40's, and this social march of change is nothing new?


Anyway...I was just wondering. Those photo's from the 60's and 70's just show such...normal looking people. Noone is really fat. Noone is 'roided up. Everyone seems to be very forward---for good or bad---and it just seems a lot...simpler. I didn't live it, I don't know.

You're really that miserable.

I haven't had my coffee yet so I'm not going to politely refute your claim, but it is very much tied to the things you /usually/ whine about. Confirmation bias. You /want/ to think things are shitty - you /persist/ in focusing on the negative.

This picture is a perfect metaphor of the "problems" y'all bitchin' 'bout:

I agree.

JWG223, have you ever heard of Morrissey and his former band the Smith's?

JR1572

 

[JWG223]

Another theory for you. The Laws of Darwin has been circumvented by the government. Educated people are having fewer children because they are so expensive. Uneducated people are having more because they are subsidized by the educated working people. In nature the stupid, slow, and lazy were weeded out by nature and died. No more. The government feeds, houses, and provides health care to them now. At the expense of the educated working population which are having fewer children because they pay for everyone's folly. It's just a theory but seems top be holding true.

I think there is some merit, here.

 

[JWG223]

I haven't had my coffee yet so I'm not going to politely refute your claim, but it is very much tied to the things you /usually/ whine about. Confirmation bias. You /want/ to think things are shitty - you /persist/ in focusing on the negative.

This picture is a perfect metaphor of the "problems" y'all bitchin' 'bout:

You're right. I do believe that I'm just seeing things negatively. We have more freedom than ever, our country is at peace, and the National Debt is shrinking while the number of home-owners is growing, camping and boating and hiking land is expanding, Public Education is producing great minds, I can buy an M16 for just $800, and unemployment just isn't an issue. Our country is leading the free world in medical, aerospace, and computer discovery and technology. I'm off in left field being bitter about nothing, this is better than the 60-70's.

 

[JWG223]

You're really that miserable.



I agree.

JWG223, have you ever heard of Morrissey and his former band the Smith's?

JR1572

No, and I was just bored and wishing I that I could do/have done the things my Dad did, as easily as he did, growing up. Finding a secluded camping spot. Enjoying the rumble of a cammed up V8 without worrying about emission laws. Highschool shooting team. Tighter knit community that actually knew each other, etc. etc.

ETA: I went and read a bit about The Smith's. It sounded like a train-wreck, in print, at least.

 

[Btl_Rkt_Sci]

I'm sure that the teen's of the 1910's saw teens of the 1950's in the same way. Not to mention, this article is comparing some of the more conservative/average teens in the 70's to the ditzes and outliers of today's teens. That's like comparing a 1910's farm-working teenager to the 1950's greaser teenager.

 

[JWG223]

I'm sure the that teen's of the 1910's saw teens of the 1950's in the same was. Not to mention, this article is comparing some of the more conservative/average teens in the 70's to the ditzes and outliers of today's teens. That's like comparing a 1910's farm-working teenager to the 1950's greaser teenager.

That makes sense. I just always hear from my Dad about "We did this..." and he describes something that totally wouldn't work today...such as shooting gar from the banks of the Red River. I guess that's just part of population density increase, though. Really sounds like a good time, though, a lot of what he told me about growing up.

 

[Grim333]

Those pics were not from the 70's. 1950's, maybe some from early 60's.

 

[JR1572]

No, and I was just bored and wishing I that I could do/have done the things my Dad did, as easily as he did, growing up. Finding a secluded camping spot. Enjoying the rumble of a cammed up V8 without worrying about emission laws. Highschool shooting team. Tighter knit community that actually knew each other, etc. etc.

Instead of wanting what they had in the past and dwelling on it, live your own life. When I was younger I used to think the same way as you about this topic.

Yeah, my dad had it good when he was younger and I wanted to have that life too, but I didn't. I had my own, and I wouldn't trade what I have experienced for anything.

JR1572

 

[Cat]

No, and I was just bored and wishing I that I could do/have done the things my Dad did, as easily as he did, growing up. Finding a secluded camping spot. Enjoying the rumble of a cammed up V8 without worrying about emission laws. Highschool shooting team. Tighter knit community that actually knew each other, etc. etc.

ETA: I went and read a bit about The Smith's. It sounded like a train-wreck, in print, at least.

My daughters school is setting up their range for the rifle team.

 

[tim9lives]

I haven't had my coffee yet so I'm not going to politely refute your claim, but it is very much tied to the things you /usually/ whine about. Confirmation bias. You /want/ to think things are shitty - you /persist/ in focusing on the negative.

This picture is a perfect metaphor of the "problems" y'all bitchin' 'bout:

Exactly correct. And just like the 60's and 70's.....there are good kids today and jackasses....always has been and always will be the same. FWIW....most of them grow up.....get married and mature once they have children of their own. Even some of the jackasses improve with time. Yet....some of the good kids crash and burn by becoming jackasses when they get older.

Its the game of life.

 

[JNieman]

No, and I was just bored and wishing I that I could do/have done the things my Dad did, as easily as he did, growing up. Finding a secluded camping spot. Enjoying the rumble of a cammed up V8 without worrying about emission laws. Highschool shooting team. Tighter knit community that actually knew each other, etc. etc.

ETA: I went and read a bit about The Smith's. It sounded like a train-wreck, in print, at least.

Every. Single. One. of those things still exists. /YOU/ just aren't making it happen. I'm sorry that the world isn't adapting to your desires that you aren't working towards making.

 

[oleheat]

I'd say most of those "70s" pics were actually from the 50s & 60s.


But be that as it may, sure- times have changed.


But a dipshit was still a dipshit back then, too.*

















*Source: Extensive first-hand accounts from older siblings & relatives.

 

[Jack]

No, and I was just bored and wishing I that I could do/have done the things my Dad did, as easily as he did, growing up. Finding a secluded camping spot. Enjoying the rumble of a cammed up V8 without worrying about emission laws. Highschool shooting team. Tighter knit community that actually knew each other, etc. etc.

ETA: I went and read a bit about The Smith's. It sounded like a train-wreck, in print, at least.

Normally I try to stay out of your threads and more so I try to stay away fr your posts, as you just mope too much for me....... BUT when I saw the guy who basically says he doesn't like anyone he lives around and doesn't want to hang out with them lamenting the loss of interactions with neighbors I have to point it out.

You don't want to be happy in the 70's just like you don't want to be happy today, you just want to post on bayoushooter about how miserable you are. You need to go outside and do something.

Edit: morrisey is the most depressing shitty attempt at music ever made, I'm sure you would love it.