So...what happened?

[JWG223]

JWG,

I hear alot of what your saying and absolutely relate. I think back to an earlier time when things were, or seemed to be better and just want to return to it. Memories of living out in the country with my grandparents and having a simpler life it what's driving me today, so much so, that I've taken huge steps to get my family to move to Shreveport. But is that going to give me the comfort and peace that I'm looking for, or was it my outlook on things and my circumstance all along? Nobody should tell you to STFU and just be happy, a rational person can determine what they like or don't like and if it makes them happy or not. Life is a day by day process and while its good to have goals for the future and for change, its also good to find the positives in your day no matter how crappy. When I get too crabby, the wife asks me to name three things I'm thankful for and it pretty much shuts me up. (by quick change of outlook.)

Thanks, and I fully agree. I'm working hard and making progress to attain the things I enjoy. No, things won't "make me happy", and it IS about outlook, but when you miss having land (grew up on 43 acres) and being able to camp, shoot, stargaze, etc. in your front-yard, and you want that "back", it's something to work toward that should make you happy once you achieve it.

Part of what's working for me, is kindof concerning to me. Right now, life's a wild-card. NO property, kids, wife, etc.

...but at the same point, I am beginning, and was beginning about a year and a half or so ago, to yearn for a bit of "permanence". To have a "home". A place that I made my own. A 484 square-foot apartment that I lived in/live in during and after college isn't my idea of that. I suppose part of my discontent, if I am to be labeled as such, is a lack of permanence in my life, and doubly so because I value permanence so much...best preservative CLP. Desire to not attain a legal marriage for fear (rational or not) of it blowing up. Purchase of a monolithic upper, hammer forged this, that, etc. Take a look at the stuff I have posted about in that light...EVERYTHING is aimed at PERMANENCE. It's unachievable, technically, but yes, that is what I'm after...a carved out niche in this world that has what I enjoy, that I call mine. Until I perceive that I have that, I think I will feel some level of stress over it.

 

[Nomad.2nd]

You're right. I do believe that I'm just seeing things negatively. We have more freedom than ever, our country is at peace, and the National Debt is shrinking while the number of home-owners is growing, camping and boating and hiking land is expanding, Public Education is producing great minds, I can buy an M16 for just $800, and unemployment just isn't an issue. Our country is leading the free world in medical, aerospace, and computer discovery and technology. I'm off in left field being bitter about nothing, this is better than the 60-70's.

I'm sitting in my airstream, on top of a mountain, communicating with you on a 'star treck' like tablet, crossing the open airwaves using technology that didn't exist a few years ago, watching a movie on my laptop, powered by the sun itself, from the panels on top of the 'stream, with my V8 4x4 parked near by, with one of my motorcycles parked next to it, metal spinners (targets) convinantly located... Able to do all this because my job is doable from anywhere due to this technology.


From my measure.... Life is SOOOO much better than 50+ years ago. When I wouldn't of had a computer, solar, Internet, tablet (and all this information an dip unrestricted communication and entertainment) to say nothing of my fridge/freezer, or the AC if today were a hot day and I needed it!


And while it may not be a FA.... There's an AK propped next to the 870. It'll do.


I should note: I have this prespective after laying on the floor all morning gasping from the pain. Only sitting up right now powered by muscle relaxers, narcotics, and rum. (don't have too many absolute bad days, but this is one)

 

[mcinfantry]

I'm sitting in my airstream, on top of a mountain, communicating with you on a 'star treck' like tablet, crossing the open airwaves using technology that didn't exist a few years ago, watching a movie on my laptop, powered by the sun itself, from the panels on top of the 'stream, with my V8 4x4 parked near by, with one of my motorcycles parked next to it, metal spinners (targets) convinantly located... Able to do all this because my job is doable from anywhere due to this technology.


From my measure.... Life is SOOOO much better than 50+ years ago. When I wouldn't of had a computer, solar, Internet, tablet (and all this information an dip unrestricted communication and entertainment) to say nothing of my fridge/freezer, or the AC if today were a hot day and I needed it!


And while it may not be a FA.... There's an AK propped next to the 870. It'll do.


I should note: I have this prespective after laying on the floor all morning gasping from the pain. Only sitting up right now powered by muscle relaxers, narcotics, and rum. (don't have too many absolute bad days, but this is one)

ill say it. that alone scares me. you really shouldnt drink on the first two individually, and you arent supposed to mix the three....

 

[Nomad.2nd]

ill say it. that alone scares me. you really shouldnt drink on the first two individually, and you arent supposed to mix the three....

Don't like to. But I'd be screaming laying on the floor without it.
(I rarely drink at all)

I spoke with my VA doc about it, and he said so long as I do it less than 1x month it won't do any permanent damage.

I break down a couple times a year. (I laid on the floor from about 8-noon till I gave up getting through the day otherwise.)

It sucks, but it is what it is.
Seeing neurosurgery on the 29th.

 

[mcinfantry]

Don't like to. But I'd be screaming laying on the floor without it.
(I rarely drink at all)

I spoke with my VA doc about it, and he said so long as I do it less than 1x month it won't do any permanent damage.

I break down a couple times a year. (I laid on the floor from about 8-noon till I gave up getting through the day otherwise.)

It sucks, but it is what it is.
Seeing neurosurgery on the 29th.

im 6'1 250, i would lay down on any two of those. all three and i would literally think i was on the USS Enterprise with spock.


I hope you find relief. that will kill you eventually

 

[Cat]

I giggled at Spock. Lee, you and I agree on a few things but I'm going to champion Nomad just this once.


Chronic pain causes you to make some very bad decisions. You know and I know it, that's how many prescription addicts are born. He shouldn't but I do understand the desire for relief. Easier said than done to warn him when we're not hurting.

THAT SAID!!! Nomad, if your doctor told you it was okay to mix a cocktail like that up to once a month, he's a f---ing idiot. If you are endangering yourself to seek relief, you need to find a new doctor and a pain management center. What you are doing can kill you. Even if that feels like a blessing some days.

I hope you will tell your neurosurgeon what you're doing, and he has more sense than your current quack.

 

[Nomad.2nd]

I giggled at Spock. Lee, you and I agree on a few things but I'm going to champion Nomad just this once.


Chronic pain causes you to make some very bad decisions. You know and I know it, that's how many prescription addicts are born. He shouldn't but I do understand the desire for relief. Easier said than done to warn him when we're not hurting.

THAT SAID!!! Nomad, if your doctor told you it was okay to mix a cocktail like that up to once a month, he's a f---ing idiot. If you are endangering yourself to seek relief, you need to find a new doctor and a pain management center. What you are doing can kill you. Even if that feels like a blessing some days.

I hope you will tell your neurosurgeon what you're doing, and he has more sense than your current quack.

I've been dealing with this for over 7 years. Till last November it was 100-120 pills/ year.
(nowhere near an addiction)

Whenever I can I'd rather 'sleep off the pain'
(and I've tried every pain management ting I could find. VA, tricare, and thousand s out of my own pocket.

Walked into the ER last November due to the pain. Spine is getting worse.
Just trying to get to my appointment on the 29th.
The thing about drugs is: when it's doing something it doesn't make you high. Because its busy working.

I'm not saying its a good thing, I'm not recommending it, I'm not advocating it, and I'm not defending it.
It just is.

 

[JR1572]

I've been dealing with this for over 7 years. Till last November it was 100-120 pills/ year.
(nowhere near an addiction)

Whenever I can I'd rather 'sleep off the pain'
(and I've tried every pain management ting I could find. VA, tricare, and thousand s out of my own pocket.

Walked into the ER last November due to the pain. Spine is getting worse.
Just trying to get to my appointment on the 29th.
The thing about drugs is: when it's doing something it doesn't make you high. Because its busy working.

I'm not saying its a good thing, I'm not recommending it, I'm not advocating it, and I'm not defending it.
It just is.

Ok, serious question:

How do you do as much as you do (ride motorcycles, clear land etc.) with this pain?

JR1572

 

[Nomad.2nd]

Ok, serious question:

How do you do as much as you do (ride motorcycles, clear land etc.) with this pain?

JR1572

Riding I use a combination of motocross boots and custom made orthotics.
And I stop and lay down when the neck is too bad (got feet and neck issues)

That said I haven't ridden in over a year.

Clearing land is very easy.


I sit in a folding chair and point telling the guy in the dozer where to go.

Quality of life dropped off a cliff last November.

Edited to add:
To answer the question: I live my life 15 minutes at a time. I'll be up doing something for 15-20 minutes, then I'll sit and read (or mindlessly surf the Internet) for about the same. Then I'll get back up and continue.
Sometimes the breaks are longer, but it's a way that works.

 

[JR1572]

Riding I use a combination of motocross boots and custom made orthotics.
And I stop and lay down when the neck is too bad (got feet and neck issues)

That said I haven't ridden in over a year.

Clearing land is very easy.


I sit in a folding chair and point telling the guy in the dozer where to go.

Quality of life dropped off a cliff last November.

Fair enough.

JR1572

 

[Cat]

Nomad, dude... I'm not knocking you. But yes pain meds do affect your abilities when they are working.

I was admitted into the hospital at midnight (twice) due to extreme pain, and was high off my ass. Once was gall bladder removal and the nurse slipped me two Vicodin. I am a freak when people in white coats come at me. Hyperventilate and flee down the halls kind of girl. She blew a vein and I calmly held up the other arm and just giggled. Two 500mg Vicodin. And I... Was... Gone....

Broke my leg in a very serious way. I have a bionic ankle and literally snapped ligaments off the bone. They had to pin muscles back in place. I was in significant pain for a few weeks. I don't remember May 2007. I was high damned near the entire month. It's strange to find photos with you in a wheelchair and no recollection of being there. I took a 750/7.5mg Hydrocodone morning, noon and night. Every six hours.

Root canals crying in the chair, 500mg. I'm still tipsy.

BS they don't get you high.

 

[Nomad.2nd]

Nomad, dude... I'm not knocking you. But yes pain meds do affect your abilities when they are working.

I was admitted into the hospital at midnight (twice) due to extreme pain, and was high off my ass. Once was gall bladder removal and the nurse slipped me two Vicodin. I am a freak when people in white coats come at me. Hyperventilate and flee down the halls kind of girl. She blew a vein and I calmly held up the other arm and just giggled. Two 500mg Vicodin. And I... Was... Gone....

Broke my leg in a very serious way. I have a bionic ankle and literally snapped ligaments off the bone. They had to pin muscles back in place. I was in significant pain for a few weeks. I don't remember May 2007. I was high damned near the entire month. It's strange to find photos with you in a wheelchair and no recollection of being there. I took a 750/7.5mg Hydrocodone morning, noon and night. Every six hours.

Root canals crying in the chair, 500mg. I'm still tipsy.

BS they don't get you high.

Let me do a better job (or try to) explains:

Yes, I've wrecked a motorcycle and been damn near drooling.... But what im saying is if you were popping them for 'fun' vs the meds working on doing their job.

I've had that itching sensation before from narcotics etc, but right now all I feel is a lesser level of pain (still there)

Yes, it can make you high, but it goes to work first.

And I'm sure it affects my abilities, but my major accomplishments today are: get some pants on, eat an apple, sit in a chair, and read.

 

[Vermiform]

Amen.


As for the gadgets- the things we have today really make you wonder what the future will bring.

3D finally made a comeback and has been perfected. The only thing left now is Virtual Reality. In the future, with VR, you will be able to sit in your recliner at home with a beer in your hand while being "serviced" by Scarlett Johansson while people trade classic bootlegs of Dana Delany and Drew Barrymoore back and forth.

It is going to make Heroin look like Sanka.

 

[JWG223]

Nomad, have you tried a good chiropractor? My Oma had the worst looking spine I have ever seen xray images of (osteoperosis due to growing up during the holocaust in Germany + physical injury) in anyone who was not a paraplegic. Yet, a good.chiropractor was able to help her. He didn't work a miracle, but she screamed less from her.pains for a few weeks every time she went.

 

[Cat]

Let me do a better job (or try to) explains:

Yes, I've wrecked a motorcycle and been damn near drooling.... But what im saying is if you were popping them for 'fun' vs the meds working on doing their job.

I've had that itching sensation before from narcotics etc, but right now all I feel is a lesser level of pain (still there)

Yes, it can make you high, but it goes to work first.

And I'm sure it affects my abilities, but my major accomplishments today are: get some pants on, eat an apple, sit in a chair, and read.

The first comment is stupid and screwed up. Admitting you drive impaired proves what exactly?
The second comment makes absolutely no sense. They don't have sensors that indicate they should act different or not.

I gave you the benefit of the doubt but... just... wow.

 

[Nomad.2nd]

The first comment is stupid and screwed up. Admitting you drive impaired proves what exactly?
The second comment makes absolutely no sense. They don't have sensors that indicate they should act different or not.

I gave you the benefit of the doubt but... just... wow.

Lol.... No, no.

Had STRONG pain meds (near-drooling) AFTER getting out of the hospital for wrecking my bike!!!!!!
Edit: sorry, thought you would catch that since I was replying to your 'hospital stories'

I won't even have one drink and drive in any less than 2hours, and treat pills in a similar manner.


Not following you on the rest.


Chiropractors seem to work the best out of everything from acupuncture, to ultrasound, to PT, to traction, to..... But since the spine got worse I put it on hold till after I can determine if it's helping or hurting.

 

[JWG223]

Lol.... No, no.

Had STRONG pain meds (near-drooling) AFTER getting out of the hospital for wrecking my bike!!!!!!
Edit: sorry, thought you would catch that since I was replying to your 'hospital stories'

I won't even have one drink and drive in any less than 2hours, and treat pills in a similar manner.


Not following you on the rest.


Chiropractors seem to work the best out of everything from acupuncture, to ultrasound, to PT, to traction, to..... But since the spine got worse I put it on hold till after I can determine if it's helping or hurting.

Understood. My Oma's spine looked like a "?" when viewed from the posterior in X-ray, with most of the lumbar vertebra literally crushed/degenerated. I figure if a good chiropractor could give her ANY relief, they could help anyone out at least some.

 

[Btl_Rkt_Sci]

That makes sense. I just always hear from my Dad about "We did this..." and he describes something that totally wouldn't work today...such as shooting gar from the banks of the Red River. I guess that's just part of population density increase, though. Really sounds like a good time, though, a lot of what he told me about growing up.

Oh yeah, I'm absolutely jealous of some of the freedoms our parents got to enjoy in "simpler" times.

 

[oleheat]

Just checking back in.

Have we figured out what happened, yet?

 

[oleheat]

3D finally made a comeback and has been perfected. The only thing left now is Virtual Reality. In the future, with VR, you will be able to sit in your recliner at home with a beer in your hand while being "serviced" by Scarlett Johansson while people trade classic bootlegs of Dana Delany and Drew Barrymoore back and forth.

It is going to make Heroin look like Sanka.

What was the name of that Schwarzenegger movie- The 6th Day? They had something like that, in the future....LOL