Ebola Is Airborne, University Of Minnesota CIDRAP Researchers Claim

[doc ace]

Your sarcasm has shown me the light. or perhaps you truly think the nurses were drinking his diarrhea and licking his body, or that if 70 nurses were caring for a bubonic plague victim and 2 were to fall ill that is acceptable. Either way, I'm out of this. Our opinions are too different to benefit from discussing this further.

No, but it's quite possible for the nurse to have gotten it on her glove, went to remove the glove improperly, touched her face or a mucous membrane i.e. eyelid or mouth, and very easily transmitted it that way. That is a very real world scenario.

 

[olivs260]

Your sarcasm has shown me the light. or perhaps you truly think the nurses were drinking his diarrhea and licking his body, or that if 70 nurses were caring for a bubonic plague victim and 2 were to fall ill that is acceptable. Either way, I'm out of this. Our opinions are too different to benefit from discussing this further.

Just trying to point out how ridiculous this debate is.

Everyone on here is infinitely more likely to die of heart disease then ebola or the plague. If we're so concerned about our health, we should have a lot more posts in the fitness sub.

 

[Grendal]

Do the math. 70 people who were nurses were around 1 infected patient. They wore full protective gear. 2 were infected.

That averages approximately 2.5 people out of 100 contracted the disease from 1 infected person. Out of the U.S. population, with that average, there would be a couple million infections. Do the math. I am sure more civilians in the general population would be infected since they do not wear bio suits.

With a 70% mortality rate, the flu argument seems irrelevant.

 

[Grendal]

That mortality rate is actually closer to 50% in third world West Africa... the mortality rate in First World United States is assumed to be 30% or less, due to our availability to medical facilities and quarantine practices. We are talking HIGHLY unlikely scenarios.

Just because Glenn Beck says your grandma has and will die from Ebola, does not mean she has and will die from Ebola.


http://www.livescience.com/48263-ebola-mortality-us-africa.html

Under normal circumstances, when hospitals will not be overwhelmed with numerous cases.

I am not being paranoid. Just cautious. If one infected person entered the US, more can. Our government is not stopping anyone from entering.

 

[doc ace]

if civilians are seeing someone flailing about crapping themselves and vomiting, they are going the other way or filming; they are not going to be fighting to get the person on a stretcher or gurney and taking rectal temps, sticking them with needles, or possibly clearing airways or providing resuscitation attempts. Health care workers are always at a disadvantage over civilians in the higher percentages of being in direct contact with contaminated fluids on a very consistent basis. The fluid/feces on glove or arm, to mucous membrane by a health care worker is a very plausible and likely scenario, instead of saying it's spread by airborne means, and we're all screwed.

 

[doc ace]

Why healthcare workers account for 6% of Ebola fatalities...

http://www.forbes.com/sites/dandiam...rd-to-catch-confused-heres-how-to-understand/

 

[JadeRaven]

Hepatitis is not limited to needle sticks and sex.. please do a quick search and understand human to human contact as well as eating foods prepared by hep pos employees are other means of contraction...

http://www.natap.org/1999/june/hep619299.html

Sorry, bro, I was unaware you were going to flip flop between Hep B and Hepatitis in general.

From your own resource:

Major risk factors for hepatitis B

In the United States, the major risk factors for hepatitis B are unprotected sex with multiple partners and intravenous (IV) drug use.

 

[JadeRaven]

Contrary to what the silly circus leads you to believe, its much harder to catch than is being promoted. You're far more likely to catch the cold- wash your hands and don't screw the ebola patients and you'll be just fine.

So procedures will protect you from Hep B, but procedures is what gave 2 nurses ebola.

Hmm

Does not compute.

School buses are not purple.

This is a fun game, lets continue.

 

[doc ace]

Sorry, bro, I was unaware you were going to flip flow between Hep B and Hepatitis in general.

From your own resource:

I apologize, it developed into an all encompassing Hep enlightenment, not just Hep B. I stand corrected... but you get the idea.

 

[JadeRaven]

Do the math. 70 people who were nurses were around 1 infected patient. They wore full protective gear. 2 were infected.

That averages approximately 2.5 people out of 100 contracted the disease from 1 infected person. Out of the U.S. population, with that average, there would be a couple million infections. Do the math. I am sure more civilians in the general population would be infected since they do not wear bio suits.

With a 70% mortality rate, the flu argument would seems irrelevant.

Exactly. Rough math but the point is clear.

People go home (families), school (classmates, teachers), work (co-workers, customers), church, hospital, etc. and everybody not at the hospital that they come into contact with is not prepared or adequately defended against a person-to-person communicable disease.

It's the definition of deadly communicable disease that some folks seem to have a problem with.

The flu, the cold, etc. do not have significant mortality rates for normal, non-immunocompromised individuals.

 

[JadeRaven]

I apologize, it developed into an all encompassing Hep enlightenment, not just Hep B. I stand corrected... but you get the idea.

I see your point, and even though hep A is very easy to get, it does not typically kill the host.

 

[Scylas]

I'm curious why everyone these days seems to be forgetting the devastation that ebola left in its wake in Africa in the 90's. I remember it, it wiped out entire villages left and right. In my honest opinion, it would have done more had they not been so rural and spread out(unlike us). They may not have as good of treatment facilities as we do, but it's not the treatment facilities I'm worried about.

 

[Nomad.2nd]

I'm curious why everyone these days seems to be forgetting the devastation that ebola left in its wake in Africa in the 90's. I remember it, it wiped out entire villages left and right. In my honest opinion, it would have done more had they not been so rural and spread out(unlike us). They may not have as good of treatment facilities as we do, but it's not the treatment facilities I'm worried about.

Nope, but there's no point in freaking out until people other Than healthcare workers get it.

As to "our superior medical care" that only works if your one of the first <dozen patients per hospital.

 

[WHO DAT 504]

Nope, but there's no point in freaking out until people other Than healthcare workers get it.

One of those healthcare workers is currently on a cruise ship.

 

[Emperor]

One of those healthcare workers is currently on a cruise ship.

 

[Peacemaker]

1 or 2 or 4... hey no big deal. . Let a couple hundred become infected then you'll see some buttholes pucker. Don't worry folks it will spread. Idiots in direct contact with the disease and then not having the good sense to know not to get into confined spaces with others that are unaware... oh Yea it will surely spread and probably faster than most think.. Hell just a month ago the idiot in the Whitehouse said it would be very rare for it to make it to the US. Yea that was spot on..

 

[olivs260]

1 or 2 or 4... hey no big deal. . Let a couple hundred become infected then you'll see some buttholes pucker. Don't worry folks it will spread. Idiots in direct contact with the disease and then not having the food sense to know not to get into confined spaces with others that are unaware... oh Yea it will surely spread and probably faster than most think.. Hell just a month ago the idiot in the Whitehouse said it would be very rare for it to make out to the US. Yea that was spot on..

And yet, it's not exactly a widespread epidemic, is it? But I guess that it's pretty obvious that it's Obama's fault, though

 

[Peacemaker]

Oh and comparing it to heart disease amd hepatitis is laughable. .

 

[Peacemaker]

And yet, it's not exactly a widespread epidemic, is it? But I guess that it's pretty obvious that it's Obama's fault, though

it's his fault for not doing what needs to be done to slow down infected foreigners from Africa into this country.

 

[Peacemaker]

And yet, it's not exactly a widespread epidemic, is it? But I guess that it's pretty obvious that it's Obama's fault, though

Hey bud I hope you're right. . But i don't think you are. It won't be long we'll all geta good look.