Shooting in Pierre Part this AM....Anyone know what's going on??

[MRBULLRED]

What if a bunch of guys dressed in swat gear with "POLICE" on their shirts bust into the restaurant and you are legally OCing with a CHP within 1000' of a school zone? You know you can legally be there and they should not be infringing upon your right to eat some good ole home cooked seafood. Would/should/did/will/are you going to engage them since you don't KNOW they are police and they did not knock on the door?

To answer this, I would need to know whether they serve alchohol for consumption on premises?

Oh, and do they have any pet foxes that may get caught in crossfire....

 

[sam4freedom]

Attention Please​

If anyone here knows someone who can put me in contact with either a witness who was in the restaurant at the time of the shooting, the gentlemen who defended himself and others, or one of the officers working the case, I would be greatly appreciative.

I am interested in researching and analyzing this particular case as a case study for academic purposes in pursuit of my Master’s of Criminal Justice Administration Degree and also as professional education as it pertains to the education of law enforcement officers and future armed citizens.

I would like to interview anyone who can lend statements to what happened so that we can do a formal analysis of the sequence of events and how they can help improve safety and training of legally armed citizens, people involved in abusive domestic relationships, and officers investigating self defense shootings.

I am interested in finding facts and determining how variables may have affected the outcome of the incident. This will be a non-invasive and informal debriefing of the situation from the viewpoint of the individual being interviewed. While I intend to get the police report when available via the FOIA, speaking directly to involved parties in a non-judgmental setting with the mutual goal of saving lives usually results in more pertinent details being revealed.

There is a chance the case and materials discovered will be used in published works to include textbooks, non-fiction writings, and articles.

If you are familiar with the case studies that gentlemen like Massaad Ayoob and Tom Givens have done on post-shooting incidents, this will be in that same vein

Full anonymity of participants can be guaranteed. Anyone who knows me knows that I have devoted my life to teaching the skills necessary to survive in a threatening world. In no way shape or form is this inquiry to be exploitive of the witnesses or police. This is an academic research project designed to reveal facts and circumstances for future educational purposes, and it will be handled as such. In the event anyone goes to trial, I will make all research available to the defense team and will testify to my findings in a court of law.

Please contact me or forward my information to appropriate parties.

Brannon LeBouef
Brannon@nolatac.com
www.nolatac.com
504-982-5433

email sent with subject Pierre Part shooting

 

[XD-GEM]

I don't think my .380 would have stopped this lunatic.

According to the report, he was shot in the chest at close range and still lived long enough to shoot back, run outside, and shoot himself. Unless you're packing an RPG, I don't think it would have made much difference.

 

[Nolacopusmc]

According to the report, he was shot in the chest at close range and still lived long enough to shoot back, run outside, and shoot himself. Unless you're packing an RPG, I don't think it would have made much difference.

FYI..... RPG's require a minimum distance of 10meters to arm. Otherwise, it is a 40mm shoulder fired slug, which is about 4x bigger than a 10mm, but equally as effective.

 

[deafdave3]

FYI..... RPG's require a minimum distance of 10meters to arm. Otherwise, it is a 40mm shoulder fired slug, which is about 4x bigger than a 10mm, but equally as effective.

Smart ass.

 

[spanky]

FYI..... RPG's require a minimum distance of 10meters to arm. Otherwise, it is a 40mm shoulder fired slug, which is about 4x bigger than a 10mm, but less effective.

Fixed.

 

[Nolacopusmc]

Smart ass.

Smartass?????

I didn't even mention that the backblast would kill more people than the warhead due to the confined space. Everyone who survived would be in your shoes.

You better watch yourself calling people names with only a .380 to back you up.

 

[Nolacopusmc]

Fixed.

trute

 

[deafdave3]

Smartass?????

I didn't even mention that the backblast would kill more people than the warhead due to the confined space. Everyone who survived would be in your shoes.

You better watch yourself calling people names with only a .380 to back you up.

Was just yankin' ya chain.

The .380 is only temporary until I can decide between a G23 or a M&P .40.

 

[olivs260]

LOL, that is so true. I've been to a wedding that both bride and groom where Landrys before getting hitched.

My grandma was a Landry both before and after getting married

 

[Nolacopusmc]

Was just yankin' ya chain.

The .380 is only temporary until I can decide between a G23 or a M&P .40.

M&P...all your friends are doing it.

 

[rustyduck]

i didn't read most of the last two pages in this topic. i heard that the boyfriend shot the woman while she was waiting on a customer. that customer was sitting right there a foot or two away from the gun blast, pulled out his weapon and fired at the boyfriend. no time for anything else. kind of reaction i think. if all that is true.

 

[Hitman]

FYI..... RPG's require a minimum distance of 10meters to arm. Otherwise, it is a 40mm shoulder fired slug, which is about 4x bigger than a 10mm, but equally as effective.

I didn't even mention that the backblast would kill more people than the warhead due to the confined space. Everyone who survived would be in your shoes.

Actually Teufel!

The minimum engangement range of the RPG-7 is 10m, The minimum arming distance of the rocket is 5m.
Backblast is listed as a mere 3 feet but I wouldn't get that close and inside would hurt fo'shizzle. It's nothing in comparison to the SMAW backblast which extends in a 90-meter, 60° cone to the rear of the weapon and is lethal out to 30m, and still extremely dangerous to 90m.

Smart ass.

I guess that'd be me in this case

We have history so I'm allowed to screw with him Dave

ANYWAY!

Here's that 5 meter arming distance at work;
(Stand-by to LOL!)

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4vOr4mBuZw[/ame]


And here's that Backblast at work
(WELL within 3 feet...more like 12 inches) LOL!

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDZaPxVsmd4[/ame]

 

[Nolacopusmc]

Actually Teufel!

The minimum engangement range of the RPG-7 is 10m, The minimum arming distance of the rocket is 5m.
Backblast is listed as a mere 3 feet but I wouldn't get that close and inside would hurt fo'shizzle. It's nothing in comparison to the SMAW backblast which extends in a 90-meter, 60° cone to the rear of the weapon and is lethal out to 30m, and still extremely dangerous to 90m.




I guess that'd be me in this case

We have history so I'm allowed to screw with him Dave

ANYWAY!

Here's that 5 meter arming distance at work;
(Stand-by to LOL!)



And here's that Backblast at work
(WELL within 3 feet...more like 12 inches) LOL!

I am sure you have shot them also, and you know that sucker will jack you up well beyond the 3 foot "listed" back blast. i think the arming distance is technically dependent on the actual round type.


We are teaching these guys 10 meters on the OG-7V rounds.

Never shot a SMAW, but I have seen video.

 

[Hitman]

I am sure you have shot them also, and you know that sucker will jack you up well beyond the 3 foot "listed" back blast. i think the arming distance is technically dependent on the actual round type.

We are teaching these guys 10 meters on the OG-7V rounds.

Never shot a SMAW, but I have seen video.

Yea just hacking with you Jarhead!

I was 0351 so I've fired most all Shoulder Fired RPG/Missles, to include the Dragon and Javelin. Fired a few LAWS in Fallujah too. Damn right it will bite your ass pass the listed distance.

Tell me you didn't laugh your ass off at those videos though. The wall blew up 10 feet in front his face

 

[Nolacopusmc]

I just checked the slide, and they show the kill zone for the backblast as 8m, dnager zone (injury) as 20 meters, and caution as an additional 25 meters in a 45 degree cone from rear muzzle. That is also in keeping with my very weak recollection from my Intermediate Range Safety Officer CLass from back in the USMC days where we used protractors and crap to design everything from a . 22LR range to a 2000lb bomb drop zone for field ranges.


But hey, YRPGMV (Your RPG may vary)

 

[deafdave3]

M&P...all your friends are doing it.

I have friends?

 

[Nolacopusmc]

Good luck with getting any hard info any time soon. The bodies are barely cold. And guarantee anonymity??? C'mon, Brannon. Two problems with that... first, you can't. Second, even if you could, your writing would look like those clowns Marshall and Sanow- "We must protect our sources". Of course they had to; because the parts of it that weren't total ******** were slanted in favor of their pre-conceived conclusions. Not saying YOU would do that... but too many folks have long memories, and at the first hint of any hold-backs will dismiss the information as questionable.

I can tell you this much... what we know so far of this incident reinforces my decision to carry a .45 everywhere...

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Not sure what you are getting at. I most certainly could guarantee anonymity by not identifying my sources.

Keep in mind, this is a research project. I am not necessarily trying to tell a story for people to believe perse. it really would be more like a post-shooting investigation. i am looking for facts, and "perceptions of facts" from those who were there compared against physical evidence. You know even better than me, that an eye-witness will go to their grave believing in their heart that what they said they saw was what they saw, even though every piece of physical evidence proves otherwise.

I am mainly looking at the human factors that played into this from a self-defense perspective. I want data above and beyond the typical LEO investigation and more into the sociological aspect of the incident from a criminology stand point.

What can we learn as armed citizens?
What tactics could have been used?
Are there any dynamics that may make what happened appear differently than it really is to initial investigating officers?
What was the police response and was it appropriate? What led to that response good or bad.

Give me some credit Steve, you know I am too young to know whop in the hell those two guys you are referring to are. LOL



Then there is your side of the house with the ballistics and physical interactions involved.

 

[deafdave3]

Good luck with getting any hard info any time soon. The bodies are barely cold. And guarantee anonymity??? C'mon, Brannon. Two problems with that... first, you can't. Second, even if you could, your writing would look like those clowns Marshall and Sanow- "We must protect our sources". Of course they had to; because the parts of it that weren't total ******** were slanted in favor of their pre-conceived conclusions. Not saying YOU would do that... but too many folks have long memories, and at the first hint of any hold-backs will dismiss the information as questionable.

I can tell you this much... what we know so far of this incident reinforces my decision to carry a .45 everywhere...

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Do you even know the man???

 

[Hitman]

I can tell you this much... what we know so far of this incident reinforces my decision to carry a .45 everywhere...

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Nuff Said.