Dear Ske1etor:
I won't comment on your sophomoric "cocked & locked" statement, other than to say that BATF (and the rest of the world) have a far different understanding. You might as well have included revolvers in your "sounds like" statement.
You might as well add some more stuff that I haven't posted. Seems like this is one of your favorite things to do on these forums. If someone doesn't say it, they can rely on you to put the words in their mouths.
Please note also that there is a vast difference between the term "level of training" and a complete lack of training. The former connotes that you have actually had some. Based on your comments, it appears that your "training" is comprised primarily of keyboard research and/or subscriptions to gun rags.
Yes, because you can tell from my postings on an internet website my level of training. Only a fool judges a man based on his assumptions. I don't have a single subscription to a gun magazine and I am an active shooter at our local shooting range for atleast 2 hours a week, every week.
Internet research and magazine articles aren't bad per se. But it's kinda like some guy who has read a bunch of books on golf. His opinions on that sport would carry more weight if he had actually competed in and distinguished himself in some professional competitions.
I totally agree which is why I take everything on this website with a grain of salt. You can sit there and play armchair commando and act like you have had five million hours of training when in actuality you have had none.
It is amazing (and sometimes fun) to watch people visit a forum such as this where they could learn from people like LSP (maybe one day you'll get a glimpse of his resume') and instead choose to argue and post asinine opinions. However, at least folks here are, for the most part, polite in responding to those posts.
So because I carry a 1911 my opinion is asinine?
I'm sure you're a nice guy. And I have no doubt that you are intelligent. Now you just need to get some training to complement all your internet "wisdom." Go take a couple of handgun self defense courses and then come back and give us the benefit of your knowledge.
I am working on more training at this point. I apologize for working 70 hours a week keeping you and your fellow BayouShooter.com members safe on our states interstates and state maintained highways.
Several members here can help you with recommendations for a number of top-flight training academies. Good luck.
Several members here would also disagree with you. See, that is the way it works on the internet. Just because you agree with someones opinion doesn't mean it is "The Opinion".
Because those safeties you mentioned must be dis-engaged BEFORE the pistol can fire; and therein lies the rub.
Your average 1911 trigger takes quite a bit less pressure to trip the sear (or release the striker, depending on what pistol you're referring to) than the "service" type pistols popular today; Glocks, DA Sigs, LEM HKs, etc. And there is more out there than high-cap polymer autos; sounds like Glock-hate to me...
That is one reason why semi-autos were never popular, and DA revolvers reigned, with US police until the late 80s. No matter how hard you try to beat it into them not to, non-gun people ARE going to put their finger on the trigger when under duress.
Non-gun people is defined as those who cannot (or more properly WILL not) take the time and effort to train and become proficient with their weapon. Granted, police and military handgun training (with the notable exception of the spec ops people) is woefully inadequate; but that doesn't relieve anyone from the awesome responsibility one incurs when one chooses to carry.
This is something that guys like Skeletor simply cannot come to grips with. They cannot understand and/or acknowledge how someone who carries a gun for a living isn't as enthusiastic about shooting as they are. I don't understand it either; and I've lived it for many, many years. But I acknowledge it.
I can absolutely come to grips with the fact that someone without the proper firearm safety training and at least a decent amount of trigger time is an ND waiting to happen but to simply say that one carrying a 1911 is more susceptible to an ND is just silly. If I follow your posts, the guy would forget to sweep off the thumb safety anyway so the trigger would be rendered useless. Right? Oh, that must not apply now. Now the guy will remember to sweep the safety off but then accidentally pull the trigger under stress?
Sadly, I must lump many non-police/military "enthusiasts" in this category of "non-gun people". These are folks who, like Dawg mentioned, get most all of their "knowledge" from the internet or gun magazines. As I said earlier, such people with a 1911 are an ND waiting to occur.
I'm not throwing rocks at anyone in particular here; just making a general observation; backing up, if you will, my previously-stated opinion.
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Just because someone gets all of their information from the internet and gun mags doesn't mean that they are incapable of being safe with a firearm and it doesn't take trip to thunder ranch to learn how to handle a pistol. If it did, only about 3 percent of the firearm owning world would be properly trained to handle a firearm safely. The statistics on ND's and AD's simply don't back that up.
I will however agree that proper training can only help, but don't sit there and assume that only people who have trained for hundreds of hours can safely and effectively utilize a firearm when needed.