Apparently LEGAL guns are the problem in the hood...

[oleheat]

I'd love to know how many guns used in crimes are stolen from those living in gov't housing......

.....and how many of those were hot in the first place.

 

[charlie12]

For all you younger guys & gals:

When I was young, we had guns in LSU dorms, churches, and airliners. I can't recall one incidence of this causing a problem.

We had razor-sharp pocket knives in our jeans at school, and I never heard of one being drawn in a schoolyard fight.

Our parents and grandparents taught us to behave responsibly and to respect others and their properties.

The attitudes and behaviors are the problems, not inanimate objects.

When will these nuckleheads ever come to realize that the people who obey the no-firearm restrictions are ALWAYS the wrong ones?

leVieux

I'm old enough to remember some of those days. You're right.

 

[LACamper]

I wouldn't outlaw ownership of guns in the projects. I do think they shouldn't be spending money on new guns while they're trying to get out of a project. I'm going to say they can't own their grandpa's pistol if they live there though.

Those projects need to be dispersed. Project communities need to be broken up into no more than a few families together. Part of their rent needs to be allocated to a savings account to be put towards the downpayment on a real apartment or towards a downpayment on an inexpensive home. Maybe one confiscated by the city?

 

[whitjct]

woops I put No accidentally...that one doesn't count

 

[bs875]

woops I put No accidentally...that one doesn't count

I was wondering who the one no was.

 

[spanky]

woops I put No accidentally...that one doesn't count

What do you want to change it to?

 

[whitjct]

What do you want to change it to?

Yes

 

[Sin-ster]

I can't think of a better place to allow a citizen to own a firearm. As others have pointed out, those who are going to pose a threat have had guns in that place long before this discussion began.

The only difference between these public housing projects and the neighborhoods in which we live is the higher propensity for crime and the close proximity of so many residents. That said, the only real problem I see in "allowing" guns in these areas is that they might be easier to steal, and more likely to end up in the wrong hands.

All of that said, +1 to Spanky.

Why is this even a question?

 

[Kraut]

I've met, on many occasions, people living in public housing that weren't lazy, layabout, thug-ass criminals. It's just their unfortunate circumstance that the government won't 'scerminate against the lazy, layabout, thug-ass criminals and deny them housing, so they have to live in the middle of the festering sh!thole that most public housing becomes due to the acceptance of above said lazy, layabout, thug-ass criminals. Some where honestly trying to get out, some due to disabilities and limited skills/income had no opportunity to go anywhere else. There's no reason good people who, through whatever circumstances are brought low on the economic scale, should be denied their God-given right to self defense. Someone asked it earlier: Why is this even a question?

 

[Suburbazine]

where's my damn retract vote button at?

 

[Gerberman]

If it is a Federally owned building, no.

 

[oleheat]

If it is a Federally owned building, no.

Interesting point.


I wonder how many people living in gov't housing (AKA The Projects) are holders of a CHP?

 

[ejt1469]

Wow. I can't belive anyone on THIS board would say "no." Amazing.

"A person shouldn't be forced to give up his Second Amendment rights just to have a roof over his head. Many public housing projects are high-crime areas where people most desperately need the right to defend themselves. NRA has long fought this battle both in the courts and in legislatures around the country and recently settled a similar lawsuit against the San Francisco Housing Authority."

http://www.nraila.org/legislation/read.aspx?id=5368

 

[rooster]

Wow. I can't belive anyone on THIS board would say "no." Amazing.

"A person shouldn't be forced to give up his Second Amendment rights just to have a roof over his head. Many public housing projects are high-crime areas where people most desperately need the right to defend themselves. NRA has long fought this battle both in the courts and in legislatures around the country and recently settled a similar lawsuit against the San Francisco Housing Authority."

http://www.nraila.org/legislation/read.aspx?id=5368

There are other roofs they can put over their head. For instance any roof not paid for by other peoples tax money.

 

[PAPACHUCK]

Amen, brother.

 

[ejt1469]

There are other roofs they can put over their head. For instance any roof not paid for by other peoples tax money.

That does not void anyone's Constitutional right.

 

[Lewgee]

Active duty service members cannot have their privately owned firearms in their barracks.

>>I guess we should make a tax on firearms to help them afford these guns too..like we do for telephone...

 

[rooster]

That does not void anyone's Constitutional right.

I do think they should be able to have guns but the courts have shown that a person who rents can have certain things banned including guns. The idea is if you want to have a gun then you don't have to go there. Same with stores that post a no gun sign. I don't know how the court would view it but I tend to think they would say seeing as the person is getting government aid in the for of housing then they fall under any rules the government wants to enforce on them just as if they were renting from a private person.

 

[Jed]

I voted no.
If you are in government housing then how are you able to afford firearms/ammunition?
That said, if the tenant stole them borrowed them or was gifted them that's a different issue, but if my taxes go to subsidise your accomodation then no.

 

[ejt1469]

If you are in government housing then how are you able to afford firearms/ammunition?

...or socks or toothpaste or bus fare or stamps or whatever...I hate the abuse of the public welfare system, but I will fight for everyone's Constitutional rights...if someone losses theirs, you could be next. You got an SBA loan, student loan, cash for clunkers, child tax credit......