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  • T-maggot

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    http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20100324/pl_politico/34907

    The backlash: Reform turns personal

    Jake Sherman, Marin Cogan – Wed*Mar*24, 5:51*am*ET
    Reps. Louise Slaughter and Bart Stupak have received death threats.
    A tea party participant published what he thought was Rep. Thomas Perriello’s home address and urged disgruntled voters to “drop by” for a “good face-to-face chat.”
    Vandals broke windows at Slaughter’s office in New York and Rep.*Gabrielle Giffords’s office in Arizona.
    And angry voters are planning to protest this weekend at the home of Steve Driehaus — who’s already seen a photograph of his children used in a newspaper ad published by reform opponents.
    The vitriolic health care debate has become personal — too personal, say House Democrats who voted for the bill and now find not just themselves but their families in the cross hairs of opponents.
    Slaughter, a Democrat who chairs the House Rules Committee, said a caller to her office last week vowed to send snipers to “kill the children of the members who voted yes.” Her office reported the call to police, who were dispatched to provide protection for Slaughter’s grandchildren. She has also been in touch with the FBI and U.S. Postal Service inspectors, who intercepted a letter en route to her home in upstate New York.
    Stupak, the Michigan Democrat whose last-minute compromise on abortion guaranteed passage of the bill Sunday, said callers have left messages for him saying, “You’re dead; we know where you live; we’ll get you.”
    “My wife still can’t answer the phone,” Stupak told POLITICO on*Tuesday. The messages are “full of obscenities if she leaves it plugged in. In my office, we can’t get a phone out. It’s just bombarded.”
    Stupak, a former police officer, said he’s not fazed by the threats or by the prospect of protests at his district office this weekend. “I’ve looked down barrels of guns,” he said. “I’ve talked my way out of it.”
    But Democrats said their political opponents go too far when they bring members’ families into the fray.
    Driehaus, a Democrat from Ohio, was outraged last week when a group called the Committee to Rethink Reform used a photo of him and his two young daughters in a newspaper ad urging him to vote against any health care reform bill that included federal funding for abortion. Both the group and the newspaper — the Cincinnati Enquirer — apologized for including Driehaus’s daughters in the ad.
    “I’m very protective of my family, like most of us,” Driehaus said Tuesday. “There is no reason for my wife and kids to be brought into any of this. If people want to talk to me, if people want to approach me about an issue, I’m more than happy to talk about the issue, regardless of what side they’re on. But I do believe when you bring in a member’s family, that you’ve gone way too far.”
    Driehaus faults Republicans for providing encouragement to the most extreme opponents of reform. Last week, House Minority Leader John Boehner (R-Ohio) warned that anti-abortion Democrats would suffer politically if they voted for the health care bill; he singled out Driehaus, saying he “may be a dead man” and “can’t go home to the west side of Cincinnati” because “the Catholics will run him out of town.”
    “Mr. Boehner made comments about me and my predicament when I go home which I felt were wildly out of bounds for his position and very irresponsible, quite frankly. He’s from next door. That’s not helpful. That’s irresponsible,” Driehaus said.
    Boehner spokesman Michael Steel said, “The leader does not condone violence, and his remark was obviously not meant to be taken literally. He is urging Americans to take the anger they’re feeling and focus it on building a new majority that will listen to the people.”
    No one condones death threats against members or their families, but not everyone is apologetic about taking complaints about health care reform straight to the homes of members.
    Mike Troxel, an organizer for the Lynchburg Tea Party, posted what he believed to be Perriello’s home address on his blog this week, sarcastically urging other tea partiers to stop by and “say hi and express their thanks regarding his vote for health care.”
    The address turned out to be the home of Perriello’s brother — who has four children — but Troxel told POLITICO he didn’t intend to remove it from his blog. “If they would like to provide me with the address of Tom, then I’d be more than happy to take it down,” he said. “I have no reason to believe it’s not his house.”
    A fellow tea party blogger said he thought it was fine for Troxel to post Perriello’s home address. “They have our home addresses,” said Kurt Feigel, who complained that protesters had little choice but to go to Perriello’s home because Perriello’s office doesn’t “respond to e-mail; they don’t respond to letters; they don’t respond to us showing up at his office. So what am I going to do?”
    Perriello said his family doesn’t want him to be afraid. But when asked if he was scared anyway, the Virginia Democrat replied: “Whatever.”
    “I’ve lived in Sierra Leone for two years, where the life expectancy is 34 years old. If the worst thing that happens is that special-interest groups spend millions of dollars against me and my most ardent opponents organize against me, it’s hardly a ‘cry me a river’ moment — as long as people act civil and within the law.”
    Others are less sanguine.
    C.J. Karamargin, a spokesman for Giffords, said staffers in the Democrat’s district office were “a little bit shaken” Monday when they arrived at work to find the glass front door shattered and covered in plywood.
    Rep. Earl Pomeroy (D-N.D.) said he had to change his personal cell phone number after a Republican gave it out to health care opponents.
    And Rep. Dennis Cardoza, a Blue Dog Democrat from California, said he’s gotten physical threats over health care reform.
    “There are some folks that identified themselves as being members of the tea party [who] called, [and] my staff has gotten to know their names over time, and they have been very loud and very ugly,” Cardoza said.
    With the House vote behind them, Democrats hope to show voters that health care reform won’t wreak the devastation opponents predict — and that tempers will cool as a result.
    Rep. Dutch Ruppersberger (D-Md.) said he’s already getting 95 percent fewer calls since Sunday’s vote. 
“The real problem is the people who are calling and talking about a revolution and overthrowing government,” he said. “They can be angry. We’re all for that. But when they talk about taking over the government, the leadership has to do its part to stop that.”
    Andy Barr contributed to this report.
     

    Yrdawg

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    Yea.........another amen

    And how do these guys or any guys who make decisions affecting other peoples families as this issue has, and yet think the backfeed won't include their families

    I'm not defending family attacks, I just know that a lot of folks think like I do on this

    If some view what they did as attacking their families, there may be family reprucussions

    Sorry it's come to that, but you can't avoid the public whan you are in public life
     

    leVieux

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    Those have attacked our Country, our way of life, our religion, and our children's futures.
    They aim to destroy us and our beloved America and replace it with a socialist gulag ruled by them.
    Just exactly how do you think that we should respond and treat them ?
    leVieux
     

    senseiturtle

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    Those have attacked our Country, our way of life, our religion, and our children's futures.
    They aim to destroy us and our beloved America and replace it with a socialist gulag ruled by them.
    Just exactly how do you think that we should respond and treat them ?


    1) 100% agree with the above.

    and

    2) This is what happens when you blatantly ignore the constitution, disregard the general welfare of the people, reject the specific wishes of the people, and allow self-interest and politics control your vote as a "representative."


    Again, while I cannot condone violence... I feel no pity for those assholes. Perhaps they can finally get the message. Attacking the family is outright wrong, but I hope they experience the full wrath of the voters in the most peaceful extent possible.
     
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    CEHollier

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    Those have attacked our Country, our way of life, our religion, and our children's futures.
    They aim to destroy us and our beloved America and replace it with a socialist gulag ruled by them.
    Just exactly how do you think that we should respond and treat them ?
    leVieux

    This should be a line in the sand. Working Americans should celebrate by voting the progressives out and taking a year off from work.
     

    CloudStrife

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    For now we can still vote, so that is the road we must take. These supposed death threats are nearly all empty, so why even both making them? We can raise hell in other more civilized but still biting ways, like the Tea Parties and everything that has stemmed from them. Heck, earlier this week, Glenn Beck talked about hoping Stupak hears the cries of babies at night. He followed that by saying in a comical tone (but you know he means it to a degree) that of course he can't condemn Stupak, but God will certainly send him to hell.

    On a side note, threatening families is way too far. Yes, the actions of these bastards will hurt our families, but we're supposed to be better than them. If in defeating them we become them, we still lose.
     

    leVieux

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    One of their next steps will be to try to disarm us. They know that this cannot be accomplished all at once, so they will likely try piecemeal. Several areas are already effectively disarmed; New Jersey, the area around NYC, much of Massachusetts, etc. Why does anyone think that Eric Holder is the A.G.? Our "line in the sand" must be the next attempt to limit our access to weapons or ammo.
    At some point, we must stand up and tell them "Hell No" or become eternal slaves to their crazy ideas. Do we want to go like the German people of 1930's, the Russian people under Stalin, or the Venezuelans under their present dictator, Hugo Chavez?
    Numbers and arms are heavily on our side. Most service members are Patriots. Many of our police and judges are, also.
    They have the ACLU lawyers, welfare recipients, and labor unions. We have millions of veterans and experienced riflemen.
    We must prepare to defend our Nation, our Families, and our Constitution!
    Yes, the next step is the November election. But; recall the strange conduct of Mary L's first Senate election, the endless "recounts" to put Al Franken in the US Senate, the blatant wearing of "Obama" T-shirts by poll workers INSIDE the polls, the Black Panthers posted at polling place entrances, etc. Can we trust our own elections any longer?
    May GOD save the USA, with our help. Be prepared. Leaders will emerge. Our Constitution will be restored.
    leVieux
    Addendum: For the record; I do not, and have never, suggested or condoned physical threats against any elected official, LEO, politician, or anyone else.
    leVieux
     
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    ryan

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    along with them taking our arms, we need to also focus on them legalizing 11 million illegals (votes). I am all for people coming to our country, but come here legally, work, pay taxes. I would be willing to say almost all of us are decedents of immigrants, heck, my grandma came over here at 14 years old, by her self during WWII. Only thing is, she came here legally, worked, paid taxes, didn't commit crimes and contributed to society and the good of America.

    If our immigration system is so flawed, how did all of our parents, grandparents and so on get here?
     

    oleheat

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    Why do I have this strange feeling that many (if not all) of these "threats" are actually the work of moveon.org, Rahm Emanuel, and their minions?

    It seems to me that the dems in Congress need a distraction- in the worst way. What better way to play the role of "victim" by creating the spectre of the evil "right wing extremist" threatening acts of "domestic terror"?

    I hope that the American People are smart enough to see what's going on here. It is obscene.
     

    CloudStrife

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    Why do I have this strange feeling that many (if not all) of these "threats" are actually the work of moveon.org, Rahm Emanuel, and their minions?

    It seems to me that the dems in Congress need a distraction- in the worst way. What better way to play the role of "victim" by creating the spectre of the evil "right wing extremist" threatening acts of "domestic terror"?

    I hope that the American People are smart enough to see what's going on here. It is obscene.

    I've wondered if there are libs that pretend to be part of the Tea Party movement that do things to make us look bad.
     

    Hardballing

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    Elections have consequences.

    So do votes.

    Deal with it.

    On a side note, I LOVED the comment from the blogger about Perino's home address with "he won't answer email, he won't answer the phone, he won't respond to letters, what am I to do?"

    What indeed?
     
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