Beretta jumping into "Black Rifle" market

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Wow. Lotta gun hate for a gun forum.

Not saying its the new gotta have rifle, but I'm giving beretta points for not producing yet another AR and the ambi options on the rifle, along with the ability to change barrels with no tools.
Truth be known, I'd like to see more bullpup designs.

 

[Vanilla Gorilla]

I worked in Afghanistan with some Italian Naval SOF. They had the new rifle. The best feature of it was that it was designed from the start to have a 12.5" Barrel. They also had Colt Canada M4s and it seemed like the Berreta Rifles only came out when their brass or Italian Media Cane around.

 

[JNieman]

I like all those new features like quick change barrels and stuff, but honestly who cares.

Most of the **** they're developing for good, new age rifles are battlefield relevant. Quick change barrels are for machine guns. Seriously how long has there been quick change barrels used? 1920s? 1930s? If it was absolutely needed, it would have been demanded before now. It's not new tech. It's just... not needed. If you have a barrel that's good for 75,000 rounds... who cares if it's quick change. P.M. would have you replacing it long before it's necessary. On top of that, ain't none of us even should be giving a **** about it because 99.9% won't ever pass up 15,000 rounds on that rifle. If you want if for novelty, have at it, but novelty is where you /don't/ start comparing it to other guns.

As for the battlefield squabbles; my experience on gun forums seems to point toward the arguments about the best battlefield gun being made by people who've never been on one, and many times never trained for it. So I decidedly don't bother discussing it.

Maybe I'm just getting apathetic but I have absolutely no desire to chase the latest/greatest, no desire to split hairs over minuscule differences in rifle design elements... I just want to buy something good enough for the role, that's reliable, and be done, and just get shooting. I guess I'm jaded. I used to be into that ****. Used to argue about that ****. Now I"m like... **** it, ain't broke don't fix it.

 

[Vanilla Gorilla]

I like all those new features like quick change barrels and stuff, but honestly who cares.

Most of the **** they're developing for good, new age rifles are battlefield relevant. Quick change barrels are for machine guns. Seriously how long has there been quick change barrels used? 1920s? 1930s? If it was absolutely needed, it would have been demanded before now. It's not new tech. It's just... not needed. If you have a barrel that's good for 75,000 rounds... who cares if it's quick change. P.M. would have you replacing it long before it's necessary. On top of that, ain't none of us even should be giving a **** about it because 99.9% won't ever pass up 15,000 rounds on that rifle. If you want if for novelty, have at it, but novelty is where you /don't/ start comparing it to other guns.

As for the battlefield squabbles; my experience on gun forums seems to point toward the arguments about the best battlefield gun being made by people who've never been on one, and many times never trained for it. So I decidedly don't bother discussing it.

Maybe I'm just getting apathetic but I have absolutely no desire to chase the latest/greatest, no desire to split hairs over minuscule differences in rifle design elements... I just want to buy something good enough for the role, that's reliable, and be done, and just get shooting. I guess I'm jaded. I used to be into that ****. Used to argue about that ****. Now I"m like... **** it, ain't broke don't fix it.

Ding Ding.

 

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Lol, at least you don't mind giving your opinion. That's what matters.
I don't think the barrel swap capability would make a difference on a battlefield. I'm not even considering battlefield application. But i dont think just inside a battlefield combat box when it comes to a rifle. And while I do consider the self defense application of some of the firearms I purchase, my opinion of a firearm is rarely, if ever, limited to how it will function on the battlefield. I like to shoot. And if I can swap from 5.56 to 300 in a flash, I think that's pretty handy.

 

[Vanilla Gorilla]

On my AR15s swapping to .300BLK takes pushing 2 pins and about 18 seconds. No tools. Return to zero guranteed.

 

[hpcatx]

While swapping out the barrels is interesting, if this Beretta retails near the MSRP, I'd be much more interested in the Tavor. Maneuverability of a SBR with no stamp and the advantages of a regular length rifle.

 

[headspace]

On my AR15s swapping to .300BLK takes pushing 2 pins and about 18 seconds. No tools. Return to zero guranteed.

complete upper

 

[headspace]

While swapping out the barrels is interesting, if this Beretta retails near the MSRP, I'd be much more interested in the Tavor. Maneuverability of a SBR with no stamp and the advantages of a regular length rifle.

those do look sweet.

 

[Vermiform]

On my AR15s swapping to .300BLK takes pushing 2 pins and about 18 seconds. No tools. Return to zero guranteed.

But the name "Beretta" just sounds cooler. And if I got one, I wouldn't have to admit to myself or friends that I own an AR. I could just refer to the rifle as "My Beretta".

 

[Vanilla Gorilla]

complete upper

I'd rather do an upper swap than a barrel swap any day.

 

[headspace]

But the name "Beretta" just sounds cooler. And if I got one, I wouldn't have to admit to myself or friends that I own an AR. I could just refer to the rifle as "My Beretta".

lol. Yeah you right

 

[hpcatx]

I'd rather do an upper swap than a barrel swap any day.

Agreed. Wouldn't have to re-zero your optics that way.

 

[headspace]

drool

/drool

gas piston driven too. Nice

 

[dixiejarhead]

While swapping out the barrels is interesting, if this Beretta retails near the MSRP, I'd be much more interested in the Tavor. Maneuverability of a SBR with no stamp and the advantages of a regular length rifle.

Winner winner chicken dinner!