BR preacher says church carry needed; will allow in his church

[oleheat]

He recognizes and understands the threat.

Of course there are some details of this bill we didn't like (as far as the additional requirements, for example), but it's good to know that there are some preachers who actually care about the safety of their congregation.

http://www.wafb.com/Global/story.asp?S=12787664

 

[Guate_shooter]

Thats awesome, I hope this is just the begining and soon more will follow.

Whats this deal about an extra 8hrs of tactical course????????????????????

 

[CloudStrife]

It's non-sense that this is even an issue. A church is private property. But it's a step in the right direction.

You always see the same idiotic comments on this subject. When are these idiots going to understand that a person with murderous intent doesn't give a damn about gun laws?

 

[oleheat]

OH GREAT- MEM left a comment on the article....

 

[CloudStrife]

OH GREAT- MEM left a comment on the article....

Well, he is right.

It didn't understand this statement.

"Everybody is not happy with what God is doing," said Pastor Eric Williams of Beacon Light Church. "So, we've got to protect God's people at any cost."

So the pastor is saying God is slacking or working against us?

 

[oleheat]

Well, he is right.

Oh, give him a minute.

 

[CloudStrife]

Found this interesting description of a pilgrim church.
http://www.mayflowerhistory.com/History/plymoth7.php

The Church Building.
The church building itself had no significance to the Pilgrims, and was kept intentionally drab and plain, with no religious depictions, crosses, windows, fancy architecture, or icons, to avoid the sin of idolatry. At Plymouth, the Pilgrim's church was the bottom floor of the town's fort--the top floor held six cannons and a watchtower to defend the colony. The church room was also the town's meetinghouse, where court sessions and town meetings took place. Isaac de Rasieres, who visited Plymouth in 1627, reported how the Pilgrim's began their church on Sunday: "They assemble by beat of drum, each with his musket or firelock, in front of the captain's door; they have their cloaks on, and place themselves in order, three abreast, and are led by a sergeant without beat of drum. Behind comes the governor, in a long robe; beside him on the right hand, comes the preacher with his cloak on, and on the left hand, the captain with his side-arms and cloak on, and with a small cane in his hand; and so they march in good order, and each sets his arms down near him." During the early years of Plymouth, failing to bring your gun to church was an offense for which you could be fined 12 pence.

 

[meisal]

I pastor a church and will allow conceal carry (oops already do) to provide security.
As far as the 8 hr training we will watch something on tv or video since they don't have a clue.

 

[Baldrik78]

So the pastor is saying God is slacking or working against us?

Perhaps he figured out which hand fills up first, when you wish in one and **** in the other.

 

[CloudStrife]

His statement contradicts itself and his position as a pastor. It was probably poorly thought out.

 

[oleheat]

Well, he is right.

It didn't understand this statement.


So the pastor is saying God is slacking or working against us?

The "not everybody" he's referring to are the goblins that would come into a place of worship to carry out acts of carnage. No, I don't believe he was speaking about God either slacking or working against us.

 

[Mjolnir]

It's non-sense that this is even an issue. A church is private property. But it's a step in the right direction.

You always see the same idiotic comments on this subject. When are these idiots going to understand that a person with murderous intent doesn't give a damn about gun laws?

But it's a 501c3 corporation which means they are a creature of the fed, unfortunately.

 

[Yrdawg]

But it's a 501c3 corporation which means they are a creature of the fed, unfortunately.

Because of tax exemp status ??? Just a guess

 

[Yrdawg]

Mr Strife, I don't know much but I can assure you everyone in the world dosn't approve of what God is doing ?? How would you rate Him ??

 

[XD-GEM]

I liked this guy's comment:

Big DJ
Catholic schools are on Church property, not the other way around.... how does this affect them?

That was my question when this thing was being debated.

 

[CloudStrife]

Mr Strife, I don't know much but I can assure you everyone in the world dosn't approve of what God is doing ?? How would you rate Him ??

God always rates at 100% in my book. If there's something bad going on, I either don't understand what he's doing or it's not him doing it at all. Those people that say they don't approve of what he's doing are going to get bitten in the rear by their own solutions.

 

[CloudStrife]

I liked this guy's comment:



That was my question when this thing was being debated.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...ianas-new-law-allowing-churchgoers-pack-heat/

The new law, which takes effect August 15, does not apply to churches on school property.

Wouldn't school zone carry bill (HB556?) fill this gap though?

 

[sraacke]

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...ianas-new-law-allowing-churchgoers-pack-heat/


Wouldn't school zone carry bill (HB556?) fill this gap though?

No because 556 allows you to go within 1000 feet of school property but not actually ON school property which is where the Catholic church would be.

 

[charlie12]

OH GREAT- MEM left a comment on the article....

Hey Sam at least we know the Feds didn't get him. Since he's not on the OC forum.

 

[CloudStrife]

No because 556 allows you to go within 1000 feet of school property but not actually ON school property which is where the Catholic church would be.

So picking your kid up at car pool could still be a felony?

Also, it would depend on the layout of the church and school. Our Lady of Mercy and St. Isidore have a dividing fence around the school property. I'd think this separates the school from the church.