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Here is an exchange between myself and a Canada no ott.general I found oppressive, but interesting...
>>> One could argue if you have to license your fire arm, you're living
>>> >>> way too close to a police state for my taste.
>>> >>>
>> >>
>> >> What's the rules in your neck of the woods? Three day waiting period
>> >> where you have to show a license of some sort, but no registration on
>> >> the gun itself??
>> >>
>> >> Handguns up here are fierce to get, and worse to transport. Much easier
>> >> with illegal guns, I must say.
>> >>
>> >> JR.
> >
> > Instant background check to make sure you have a clean record and
> > you're good. The majority of states now license for concealed carry as
> > well but it licenses the person, not a gun and there's no records kept
> > of what you do or don't have. Most intelligent people understand that if
> > you're a trained, law abiding citizen *you* are not the person to worry
> > about. It's the outlaw's that are a problem and making guns illegal
> > doesn't concern them. That's why they're outlaws.
Interesting. Here, I think you have to license the person, then the gun
(one by one), keep them locked in a gun cabinet and with trigger locks.
If you then want to move a hand gun, to say the gun club (only legal
place AFAIK for firing handguns unless you have something like 6
square/KM around you) you have to apply for a 'move permit' that states
the times and dates of both moves (if applicable). Then it is moved in
a locked container, with trigger lock. Oh, and this is after all your
finger prints, background checks etc... Quite a riggemaroll. Rifles
and hunting guns are not that bad from what I understand... No travel
permits.
Most people, like you say are not the criminals, and the problem with
guns. But here, they really chant the mantra that law abiding gun
owners get guns stolen, so it's their fault anyways... Not the criminal
that goes down to the pub and shells out a few hundred for a .357
(probably stolen from a law abiding gun owners house) with no background
check or license required!
> >
> > I understand California is trying to pass a law that you have to show
> > ID and give a thumb print to purchase ammo and the seller has to keep
> > that info for a certain time. I dare say that will equate into the loss
> > of more fed up people (who can leave) and the loss of even more tax
> > revenue as anyone who does not leave will goto Nevada or else where to
> > buy it.
Canada would want more than that.
Don't talk to Canadians about Tax
Revenue..
JR.
>>> One could argue if you have to license your fire arm, you're living
>>> >>> way too close to a police state for my taste.
>>> >>>
>> >>
>> >> What's the rules in your neck of the woods? Three day waiting period
>> >> where you have to show a license of some sort, but no registration on
>> >> the gun itself??
>> >>
>> >> Handguns up here are fierce to get, and worse to transport. Much easier
>> >> with illegal guns, I must say.
>> >>
>> >> JR.
> >
> > Instant background check to make sure you have a clean record and
> > you're good. The majority of states now license for concealed carry as
> > well but it licenses the person, not a gun and there's no records kept
> > of what you do or don't have. Most intelligent people understand that if
> > you're a trained, law abiding citizen *you* are not the person to worry
> > about. It's the outlaw's that are a problem and making guns illegal
> > doesn't concern them. That's why they're outlaws.
Interesting. Here, I think you have to license the person, then the gun
(one by one), keep them locked in a gun cabinet and with trigger locks.
If you then want to move a hand gun, to say the gun club (only legal
place AFAIK for firing handguns unless you have something like 6
square/KM around you) you have to apply for a 'move permit' that states
the times and dates of both moves (if applicable). Then it is moved in
a locked container, with trigger lock. Oh, and this is after all your
finger prints, background checks etc... Quite a riggemaroll. Rifles
and hunting guns are not that bad from what I understand... No travel
permits.
Most people, like you say are not the criminals, and the problem with
guns. But here, they really chant the mantra that law abiding gun
owners get guns stolen, so it's their fault anyways... Not the criminal
that goes down to the pub and shells out a few hundred for a .357
(probably stolen from a law abiding gun owners house) with no background
check or license required!
> >
> > I understand California is trying to pass a law that you have to show
> > ID and give a thumb print to purchase ammo and the seller has to keep
> > that info for a certain time. I dare say that will equate into the loss
> > of more fed up people (who can leave) and the loss of even more tax
> > revenue as anyone who does not leave will goto Nevada or else where to
> > buy it.
Canada would want more than that.
Don't talk to Canadians about TaxRevenue..
JR.
