Checking to see if guns are stolen

[Tom Gresham]

In another thread, someone said that during a traffic stop, etc., a cop might "run" your serial numbers to see if the gun or guns are stolen.

Does this bother anyone else?

I mean, if you have a television or computer in the car, will the cop "run" those to see if they are stolen?

Without evidence or suspicion that the guns are stolen, why would someone take it upon himself to put your guns' serial numbers into the system?

And, is there a way to prevent or stop this?

 

[oleheat]

It would bother me somewhat, because I know who paid for mine- ME. And I'm not part of the crime problem.

I wouldn't need an officer to verify that for me because I broke the "9 you're fine" rule.

 

[Guate_shooter]

The only way the serial number would be "in the system" is if it has been reported as stolen by a previous owner, otherwise all they get back when they run it is a clear/not found in system kinna thing .........

They are not adding it to a data base per say with your name and DL, they have better things to do IMO

 

[Ben Segrest]

It's like them asking if they can search your car in my opinion. Tell them no.

 

[charlie12]

It's happened to me once. The deputy had me against my truck taking my Sig and running me, truck, insurance, DL and unloading my gun and running it.
He was looking for a shooting suspect, he knew it wasn't me I had a truck load of newspapers doing the paper route coming from a different direction.
The suspect was 5'6" with tattoos and I'm 6'5" and couldn't catch me with a damn tattoo. He was driving a white truck and I was driving a blue truck.

He knew as soon as I got out and told him who I was and that I had a concealed handgun and had a CHP that I wasn't his guy. I guess he felt safe with me and didn't have to haul ass looking for the real shooter.

I really didn't like him standing behind me trying to hold his flashlight my wallet and trying to unload my weapon, I was scared he would have a ND and shoot me with my own gun or shoot himself with MY gun and then I would have a world of ****.

 

[hdfinder47]

What if some thug stole your pride and joy pistola and it ended up in the hands of an honest citizen who bought if off of, say, LA Sportsman, etc and got stopped for speeding. Cop runs serial number, gun goes back to you. You have your pride and joy, say Great Grandpa's 1911 from WWI, back safe at home. Now how do you feel about "the system"?
Just playing devil's advocate for the sake of discussion.

 

[Ben Segrest]

What if some thug stole your pride and joy pistola and it ended up in the hands of an honest citizen who bought if off of, say, LA Sportsman, etc and got stopped for speeding. Cop runs serial number, gun goes back to you. You have your pride and joy, say Great Grandpa's 1911 from WWI, back safe at home. Now how do you feel about "the system"?
Just playing devil's advocate for the sake of discussion.

I would say that's a textbook example of giving up Liberty to purchase Safety.

 

[Bryan]

You may know your guns are not stolen, but the cop pulling you over doesn't.

Is there a national database for stolen tv's?

 

[Renegade]

What if some thug stole your pride and joy pistola and it ended up in the hands of an honest citizen who bought if off of, say, LA Sportsman, etc and got stopped for speeding. Cop runs serial number, gun goes back to you. You have your pride and joy, say Great Grandpa's 1911 from WWI, back safe at home. Now how do you feel about "the system"?
Just playing devil's advocate for the sake of discussion.

Very good point. As long as they're not adding your serial # to a database, I don't see much of a problem with it... in theory. The problem is that in practice, the LEO can abuse it and use it as a means to harass you and keep you on the side of the road. It's a double-edged sword.

 

[Tom Gresham]

The question, I guess, is WHY.

Why run serial numbers of guns if they don't run serial numbers of other items?

Also, is the NOPD still demanding proof of ownership of guns when they do a traffic stop?

 

[Emperor]

I am totally against it! This CC permit strips you of your Constitutional Right to not consent to any type of search. By state law you HAVE to surrender your weapon because of the permit. Guess who doesn't do that? Criminals(that don't give a crap), and people without CC permits that respectfully tell the police officer, "Officer; I do not consent to any unwarranted searches!"

That's who! I would rather have this permit than not, but I don't really know if it is a blessing or a curse.

 

[jmcrawf1]

You may know your guns are not stolen, but the cop pulling you over doesn't.

Is there a national database for stolen tv's?

You can enter almost anything as stolen into NCIC.

 

[Gbav1]

When I purchase a gun,( which happens pretty often) The first thing I do is take my original reciept and
reduce it down to creditcard size on a copy machine
then I cover it in plastic. If you get stopped you can show the LEO the copy of the original.
P.S. leave the original at home.

 

[LongGoneDays]

And, is there a way to prevent or stop this?

Roundhouse kick him in the face and run?

 

[Golden-Eagle]

In the OP question , he referred to guns, computers, and tvs. I fall somewhere between Emperor and Oleheat in my beliefs. LEO are not worried about being shot by the computers or tvs.

 

[Guate_shooter]

NOt to mention I am yet to see a TV or computer kill an innocent person out on the street, while stolen guns are usually the #1 tool used ...........

 

[Tom Gresham]

"In the OP question , he referred to guns, computers, and tvs. I fall somewhere between Emperor and Oleheat in my beliefs. LEO are not worried about being shot by the computers or tvs."

I'm not sure what that has to do with checking to see if an item is stolen, when there is no indication that it is stolen. There is no concern that the officer is going to be shot with the gun when the officer has the gun in his hand. What safety benefit is to be gained by doing the check?

 

[deafdave3]

If I buy a second-hand gun (and I do often), the first thing I do is voluntarily have my local LEA run the numbers. That's a service they provide and may one day save your ass. Hopefully not, but it could.

 

[jmcrawf1]

"In the OP question , he referred to guns, computers, and tvs. I fall somewhere between Emperor and Oleheat in my beliefs. LEO are not worried about being shot by the computers or tvs."

I'm not sure what that has to do with checking to see if an item is stolen, when there is no indication that it is stolen. There is no concern that the officer is going to be shot with the gun when the officer has the gun in his hand. What safety benefit is to be gained by doing the check?

What indication would you like there to be to trigger an officer to run a gun? Is there an "I AM STOLEN" flag that sticks out the barrel? How do YOU propose officers go about recovering stolen guns?

 

[Tulse Luper]

It's too bad there's no 'app' that any citizen can use to run a gun. Would be nice for FTF deals. Elect me Viceroy and that's something I'd do.