Conceal Carry Permit: No NICS but set by date?

[djdig]

So I called the conceal carry department and they told me since my license was 12/03/13 and expires in 2018 that by law I don't fall under the no NICS background check, but they said I can renew my license early and can only do it in 2018.

I don't understand if you already had a license before March 2015 you cannot fall under the non NICS check....that doesn't make sense. Anyone have any info on this....or am I missing something it seems like something is wrong here.

Also what if you had a lifetime license???? Your just screwed?

 

[Blackhawk]

The way they wrote the law was that only permits issued after Mar 15 would qualify you for no NICS checks, possibly something to do with additional background checks made after March? Doesn't matter if it makes sense or not, that's just the way the law is written. Looks like you are stuck until 2018

 

[DAVE_M]

It's on the LSP page...

possession of a current and valid 5-year Louisiana Concealed Handgun Permit, issued on or after March 9, 2015 shall constitute sufficient evidence of the background check required pursuant to 18 U.S.C. 922(t) for the purchase of a firearm, and may be used in lieu of a NICS check. However, as stated in Act 221, possession of a Concealed Handgun Permit that has a Lifetime designation shall not constitute sufficient evidence of the background check pursuant to 18 U.S.C. 922(t).

http://www.lsp.org/handguns.html

If you have a lifetime permit you will still need to have a NICS check run.

 

[djdig]

Thanks for info

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[bigtattoo79]

You still have to fill out the 4473 so it really doesn't save anytime (unless you get delayed often).

 

[djdig]

No i got a upin a few yaers ago i was always delayed a day someone with same name and felonies i guess

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[DAVE_M]

You still have to fill out the 4473 so it really doesn't save anytime (unless you get delayed often).

Wrong, it saves a ton of time, unless you can manage to get a NICS check done in the time it takes to use a pen for writing down the info on your DL & CHP. Do you have a 5-year permit that was issued after March 9th, 2015? I do, and I used my CHP to buy a stripped AR lower in minutes. The last time I bought a firearm and had to wait for a NICS check, it took an hour, and I've never been delayed in my life.

 

[bigtattoo79]

Wrong, it saves a ton of time, unless you can manage to get a NICS check done in the time it takes to use a pen for writing down the info on your DL & CHP. Do you have a 5-year permit that was issued after March 9th, 2015? I do, and I used my CHP to buy a stripped AR lower in minutes. The last time I bought a firearm and had to wait for a NICS check, it took an hour, and I've never been delayed in my life.

I've bought a lot of guns and never had the NICS check take over 60seconds. I will add I don't shop during sales or holidays and that could be the difference.


ETA: Are you saying that you don't fill out the 4473 at all?

 

[general mills]

I was told by an FFL that permits issued before this date were not in the same computer system as permits after this date. What that means I don't know. Maybe your new permit is a "smart" permit and will self destruct if you get a DWI?

 

[dk.easterly]

I've bought a lot of guns and never had the NICS check take over 60seconds. I will add I don't shop during sales or holidays and that could be the difference.


ETA: Are you saying that you don't fill out the 4473 at all?

You fill it out, just no call in. And btw, a 60 second call in/go ahead is just about impossible.

 

[general mills]

My father lives in Texas, where they have done this for a while. He says you still get the back round check, the CHP is just seen like an honor check, and the BR check is run after you leave.

 

[bigtattoo79]

You fill it out, just no call in. And btw, a 60 second call in/go ahead is just about impossible.

Yea 60seconds may be a bit far fetched lol but I can say for 100% it's never even came close to 5min total call time. I still hate filling out the paperwork more than waiting on the background check.

 

[rcm192]

Nics are instant...everytime I run one if you proceed everytime then you should proceed. Theres very little hesitation on a proceed usually.

 

[dk.easterly]

NICS are not always instant. Sometimes it has to go to further review. Others delayed. Just because you get a proceed doesn't mean we all do.

 

[DAVE_M]

Nics are instant...everytime I run one if you proceed everytime then you should proceed. Theres very little hesitation on a proceed usually.

NICS are usually instant. Trying to get someone on the phone isn't.

 

[AustinBR]

You fill it out, just no call in. And btw, a 60 second call in/go ahead is just about impossible.

The last five guns I have bought took less than 2 minutes.

 

[whitsend]

NICS are usually instant. Trying to get someone on the phone isn't.

Your FFL still uses the phone?


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[dk.easterly]

The last five guns I have bought took less than 2 minutes.

Again, good for you. This isn't the case for everyone else in the state.

 

[DAVE_M]

Your FFL still uses the phone?


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Academy & Cabela's both used the phone, with the addition that Cabela's has you fill out the 4473 on the computer. My new FFL has always used my CHP, since I moved to the area.

 

[tallwalker]

Bass Pro made me fill out everything on their laptop then called it in by phone as well. Kinda silly thing is only the nanager can call.