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  • Nolacopusmc

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    It is a misdemeanor. You can still have weapons and you should still be able to get a permit.

    When you et a chance, can you update your profile with location and age and tell us a little more about yourself? Thanks.


    §95. Illegal carrying of weapons

    A. Illegal carrying of weapons is:

    (1) The intentional concealment of any firearm, or other instrumentality customarily used or intended for probable use as a dangerous weapon, on one's person; or

    (2) The ownership, possession, custody or use of any firearm, or other instrumentality customarily used as a dangerous weapon, at any time by an enemy alien; or

    (3) The ownership, possession, custody or use of any tools, or dynamite, or nitroglycerine, or explosives, or other instrumentality customarily used by thieves or burglars at any time by any person with the intent to commit a crime; or

    (4) The manufacture, ownership, possession, custody or use of any switchblade knife, spring knife or other knife or similar instrument having a blade which may be automatically unfolded or extended from a handle by the manipulation of a button, switch, latch or similar contrivance.

    (5)(a) The intentional possession or use by any person of a dangerous weapon on a school campus during regular school hours or on a school bus. "School" means any elementary, secondary, high school, or vo-tech school in this state and "campus" means all facilities and property within the boundary of the school property. "School bus" means any motor bus being used to transport children to and from school or in connection with school activities.

    (b) The provisions of this Paragraph shall not apply to:

    (i) A peace officer as defined by R.S. 14:30(B) in the performance of his official duties.

    (ii) A school official or employee acting during the normal course of his employment or a student acting under the direction of such school official or employee.

    (iii) Any person having the written permission of the principal or school board and engaged in competition or in marksmanship or safety instruction.

    B.(1) Whoever commits the crime of illegal carrying of weapons shall be fined not more than five hundred dollars, or imprisoned for not more than six months, or both.

    (2) Whoever commits the crime of illegal carrying of weapons with any firearm used in the commission of a crime of violence as defined in R.S. 14:2(B), shall be fined not more than two thousand dollars, or imprisoned, with or without hard labor, for not less than one year nor more than two years, or both. Any sentence issued pursuant to the provisions of this Paragraph and any sentence issued pursuant to a violation of a crime of violence as defined in R.S. 14:2(B) shall be served consecutively.

    C. On a second conviction, the offender shall be imprisoned with or without hard labor for not more than five years.

    D. On third and subsequent convictions, the offender shall be imprisoned with or without hard labor for not more than ten years without benefit of parole, probation, or suspension of sentence.

    E. If the offender uses, possesses, or has under his immediate control any firearm, or other instrumentality customarily used or intended for probable use as a dangerous weapon, while committing or attempting to commit a crime of violence or while in the possession of or during the sale or distribution of a controlled dangerous substance, the offender shall be fined not more than ten thousand dollars and imprisoned at hard labor for not less than five nor more than ten years without the benefit of probation, parole, or suspension of sentence. Upon a second or subsequent conviction, the offender shall be imprisoned at hard labor for not less than twenty years nor more than thirty years without the benefit of probation, parole, or suspension of sentence.

    F. The enhanced penalty upon second, third, and subsequent convictions shall not be applicable in cases where more than five years have elapsed since the expiration of the maximum sentence, or sentences, of the previous conviction or convictions, and the time of the commission of the last offense for which he has been convicted; the sentence to be imposed in such event shall be the same as may be imposed upon a first conviction.

    G.(1) The provisions of this Section except Paragraph (4) of Subsection A shall not apply to sheriffs and their deputies, state and city police, constables and town marshals, or persons vested with police power when in the actual discharge of official duties. These provisions shall not apply to sheriffs and their deputies and state and city police who are not actually discharging their official duties, provided that such persons are full time, active, and certified by the Council on Peace Officer Standards and Training and have on their persons valid identification as duly commissioned law enforcement officers.

    (2) The provisions of this Section except Paragraph (4) of Subsection A shall not apply to any law enforcement officer who is retired from full-time active law enforcement service with at least twelve years service upon retirement, nor shall it apply to any enforcement officer of the office of state parks, in the Department of Culture, Recreation and Tourism who is retired from active duty as an enforcement officer, provided that such retired officers have on their persons valid identification as retired law enforcement officers, which identification shall be provided by the entity which employed the officer prior to his or her public retirement. The retired law enforcement officer must be qualified annually in the use of firearms by the Council on Peace Officer Standards and Training and have proof of such qualification. This exception shall not apply to such officers who are medically retired based upon any mental impairment.

    (3)(a) The provisions of this Section except Paragraph (4) of Subsection A shall not apply to active or retired reserve or auxiliary law enforcement officers qualified annually by the Council on Peace Officer Standards and Training and who have on their person valid identification as active or retired reserve law or auxiliary municipal police officers. The active or retired reserve or auxiliary municipal police officer shall be qualified annually in the use of firearms by the Council on Peace Officer Standards and Training and have proof of such certification.

    (b) For the purposes of this Paragraph, a reserve or auxiliary municipal police officer shall be defined as a volunteer, non-regular, sworn member of a law enforcement agency who serves with or without compensation and has regular police powers while functioning as such agency's representative, and who participates on a regular basis in agency activities including, but not limited to those pertaining to crime prevention or control, and the preservation of the peace and enforcement of the law.

    H. The provisions of this Section shall not prohibit active justices or judges of the supreme court, courts of appeal, district courts, parish courts, juvenile courts, family courts, city courts, and traffic courts, constables, coroners, district attorneys and designated assistant district attorneys, United States attorneys and assistant United States attorneys and investigators, and justices of the peace from possessing and concealing a handgun on their person when the justice or judge, constable, coroner, district attorneys and designated assistant district attorneys, United States attorneys and assistant United States attorneys and investigators, or justices of the peace are certified by the Council on Peace Officer Standards and Training.

    I. The provisions of this Section shall not prohibit the carrying of a concealed handgun by a person who is a college or university police officer under the provisions of R.S. 17:1805 and who is carrying a concealed handgun in accordance with the provisions of that statute.

    J. The provisions of this Section shall not prohibit the ownership of rescue knives by commissioned full-time law enforcement officers. The provisions of this Section shall not prohibit the carrying of rescue knives by commissioned full-time law enforcement officers who are in the actual discharge of their official duties. The provisions of this Section shall not prohibit the sale of rescue knives to commissioned full-time law enforcement officers. The provisions of this Section shall not prohibit the ownership or possession of rescue knives by merchants who own or possess the knives solely as inventory to be offered for sale to commissioned full-time law enforcement officers. As used in this Subsection, a "rescue knife" is a folding knife, which can be readily and easily opened with one hand and which has at least one blade which is designed to be used to free individuals who are trapped by automobile seat belts, or at least one blade which is designed for a similar purpose. No blade of a rescue knife shall exceed five inches in length.

    K.(1) The provisions of this Section shall not prohibit a retired justice or judge of the supreme court, courts of appeal, district courts, parish courts, juvenile courts, family courts, and city courts from possessing and concealing a handgun on their person provided that such retired justice or judge is certified by the Council on Peace Officer Standards and Training and has on their person valid identification showing proof of their status as a retired justice or judge.

    (2) The retired justice or judge shall be qualified annually in the use of firearms by the Council on Peace Officer Standards and Training and have proof of such certification. However, this Subsection shall not apply to a retired justice or judge who is medically retired based upon any mental impairment.

    Amended by Acts 1956, No. 345, §1; Acts 1958, No. 21, §1; Acts 1958, No. 379, §§1, 3; Acts 1968, No. 647, §1; Acts 1975, No. 492, §1; Acts 1986, No. 38, §1; Acts 1992, No. 1017, §1; Acts 1993, No. 636, §1; Acts 1993, No. 844, §1; Acts 1994, 3rd Ex. Sess., No. 143, §1; Acts 1995, No. 636, §1; Acts 1995, No. 930, §1; Acts 1995, No. 1195, §1; Acts 1995, No. 1199, §1; Acts 1997, No. 508, §1; Acts 1997, No. 611, §1; Acts 1997, No. 1064, §1; Acts 1999, No. 738, §1; Acts 1999, No. 924, §1; Acts 1999, No. 953, §1; Acts 2003, No. 608, §1; Acts 2003, No. 766, §1; Acts 2006, No. 515, §1; Acts 2006, No. 589, §1; Acts 2008, No. 172, §1.
     
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    topgunz1

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    Not to correct the almighty, but part 2 of the penalty is for a firearm used in the commission of a crime of violence. Part 1 is the standard penalty, and is a misdemeanor. I know, that confused me too!

    Another fun tidbit: at least on the state level, possession of a firearm with obliterated serial # is a misdemeanor too!
     

    Nolacopusmc

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    Not to correct the almighty, but part 2 of the penalty is for a firearm used in the commission of a crime of violence. Part 1 is the standard penalty, and is a misdemeanor. I know, that confused me too!

    Another fun tidbit: at least on the state level, possession of a firearm with obliterated serial # is a misdemeanor too!

    The almighty corrected himself, but you were close. I caught it.:p

    SO......defending on how you view crime and the rule of law, knowing how the court system workd, someonw ith an otherwise clean record would probaly never see jail time over it..........worth the risk?
     

    posse comatosis

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    What happens if you get cought with a conceled weapon in La
    If you are charged, you have standing to challenge the Louisiana law in federal court based on you rights under the Second Amendment. You'll probably win if the weapon was not nuclear. Downside is it might cost you a few bucks. But, hey, that's the price of freedom. Like O.J Simpson found out the hard way, justice is a rich man's game.
     

    Storm52

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    Hate to state the obvious, but here goes: Don't get caught. In other words, do not put yourself in the position of breaking the law regardless of penalty. My 2¢
     

    charlie12

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    What happens if you get cought with a conceled weapon in La? For a first time offense do you loose your gun rights and can you get a conceled carry permit after the fact?


    One thing after all the smoke clears in years to come when you get checked out by a LEO and the run your CH they will know you might be illegally carrying a Concealed weapon and draw down on you.
     

    tim9lives

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    My best guess is that in addition to the misdemeanor arrest,,,,if it is in Orleans Parish,,,you will NEVER see that gun again. Even though you should get it back,,,it's a bitch because the NOPD just does not like to give weapons back to you. Furthermore, most Criminal Lawyers do not like to press this issue.
     

    Nolacopusmc

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    My best guess is that in addition to the misdemeanor arrest,,,,if it is in Orleans Parish,,,you will NEVER see that gun again. Even though you should get it back,,,it's a bitch because the NOPD just does not like to give weapons back to you. Furthermore, most Criminal Lawyers do not like to press this issue.

    DO you speak from personal experience?
     

    Yrdawg

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    DO you speak from personal experience?

    I can

    I was charged with a gun involved crime, cleared ( no billed ) by grand jury, the DA's office refused to allow me to get my gun back.

    My Dad, just wanted it......he paid over a grand to a lawyer who is now a judge, and the lawyer was finally able to get it

    Gun was not EVEN worth the money

    Calcasieu Parish DA
    LCPD
     

    leVieux

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    It was tradition here in Louisiana (and, in Mississippi), until the 1970's, that judges, pharmacists, physicians, bankers, attorneys, etc carried concealed.

    In those days, the police still considered upstanding citizens as being on their side in the eternal war against violent crime. They also were looking for actual bad people, not technicalities, back then.

    I never, ever, heard of any reputable citizen being charged for C C until the 1980's, when national attitudes started to change.

    Placing your bets on trumping local laws with the Second Amendment in a court proceeding almost never has worked historically. Now, after the two recent SCOTUS rulings; who knows?

    "rsmoree", why don't you take a course and learn these things while getting a license?

    Welcome to B-S, from the Crime Capital of the South.

    leVieux
     

    W1nds0rF0x

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    It was tradition here in Louisiana (and, in Mississippi), until the 1970's, that judges, pharmacists, physicians, bankers, attorneys, etc carried concealed.

    In those days, the police still considered upstanding citizens as being on their side in the eternal war against violent crime. They also were looking for actual bad people, not technicalities, back then.

    I never, ever, heard of any reputable citizen being charged for C C until the 1980's, when national attitudes started to change.

    While cleaning out old furniture, I cam across a letter "To whom it concerns, Mrs. XXXXXXX carries a small revolver in your car as protection while traveling. Thank you for your consideration. signed J. Al Amiss Sheriff East Baton Rouge Parish Louisiana."
    :rofl:
     

    Baldrik78

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    My best guess is that in addition to the misdemeanor arrest,,,,if it is in Orleans Parish,,,you will NEVER see that gun again. Even though you should get it back,,,it's a bitch because the NOPD just does not like to give weapons back to you. Furthermore, most Criminal Lawyers do not like to press this issue.

    An ellipsis is (3) dots, i.e. "..."

    If you're not going to use it in the correct grammatical sense, you could at least use the right symbol.
     

    posse comatosis

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    I never, ever, heard of any reputable citizen being charged for C C until the 1980's, when national attitudes started to change.
    That's around time time the cocaine epidemic went middle class. So a new line was drawn in the sand.

    Yrdawg, where does Lake Charles PD get that attitude they got? You reckon it could come from dealing with a murder rate in the black community averaging one homicide per day during the summer heat in a relatively small city? I don't know if that is still the case, but back in the day not too long ago it was.
     
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