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  • MALIBU12

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    :mad::mad: A veteran of three wars who was awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor is now facing an unlikely enemy — his neighbors.

    Col. Van T. Barfoot, 90, has raised the Stars and Stripes every day at sunrise and lowered them every day at sunset since he served in the U.S. Army. But on Tuesday he received a letter from the law firm that represents his homeowners' association, ordering him to remove the flagpole from his Richmond, Va. yard by 5 p.m. on Friday or face "legal action."

    SLIDESHOW: Medal of Honor Winner Col. Van Barfoot

    The homoeowners' association at Sussex Square community told Barfoot that the freestanding, 21-foot flagpole that he put up in September violates the neighborhood's aesthetic guidelines.

    Barfoot had sought permission to install the pole shortly after he moved into the community — a complex of townhouses where the grounds are community property — last June. The board denied his request in July.

    But Barfoot and his family say there is no provision in Sussex Square's rules that forbids erecting flagpoles. And for Barfoot, that's a cause worth fighting for.

    "There's never been a day in my life or a place I've lived in my life that you couldn't fly the American flag," Barfoot said in an interview with the Richmond Times-Dispatch.

    In a statement released last night, the association sought to defend its position against a growing chorus of outrage.

    "This is not about the American flag. This is about a flagpole," reads the statement from the association, which insists that Barfoot directly violated its board's July ruling.

    "Col. Barfoot is free to display the American flag in conformity with the neighborhood rules and restrictions. We are hopeful that Col. Barfoot will comply."

    The statement reminded the public that many American flags hang from homes in the Sussex Square community, and that the board members object only to Barfoot's freestanding flagpole.

    But Barfoot says he has always flown the flag from a height: "Where I've been, fighting wars ... military installations, parades, everything else, the flag is vertical. And I've done it that way since I was in the Army," Barfoot told the paper.

    Barfoot is one of the country's last living World War II veterans who received the Medal of Honor. He also served in the Korean War and the Vietnam War and earned a Purple Heart. In WWII, Barfoot showed his mettle in Carano, Italy, where he single-handedly destroyed a set of German machine gun nests, killed eight enemy soldiers, took 17 prisoners and stared down a tank before destroying it and killing its crew — all in a single day. Exhausted by his herculean efforts, he still managed to move two of his wounded men 1,700 yards to safety.

    "Sgt. Barfoot's extraordinary heroism, demonstration of magnificent valor, and aggressive determination in the face of pointblank fire are a perpetual inspiration to his fellow soldiers," reads the official citation for his Medal of Honor.

    Barfoot's resolve is now once again being tested.

    "I've flown the flag at my home as long as I can remember," said Barfoot, who lived in rural Amelia County before moving to suburban Richmond. "This is the first time in the last 36 years that I've been unable to put my flag up on the same pole, the same staff and take it down when it's time to come down.

    "I don't have any qualms with [the board's] authority, but the thing about it is that I cannot get enough conversation out of them where we can try to work out a solution," Barfoot said.

    Neighbors largely have expressed their support, but he realizes that ultimately it's up to the nine-member association board whether to grant an exception to the rules.

    "Emotional torture is what they've done to my father," said his daughter, Margaret Nicholls. "He has lost sleep, he worries about it constantly. He just doesn't understand. He thinks that if it's on his property they can't tell him what to do."


    http://http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,579147,00.html
     
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    Gumbo

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    Saw that. That HOA is toast dude, they're going to be overwhelmed with phone calls and mail chastizing them and supporting that veteran. The way I see it, that guy has the right to fly that flag anywhere, anyway he wants on American soil.
     

    SeventhSon

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    What I want to know if who in their right mind would fight him on this? It's not like the guy put up an ugly ass shed in plain sight or painted his house neon green and pink. It's a flag pole with an American flag flying from it.

    This is EXACTLY why I bought a home in a subdivision WITHOUT a HOA!
     

    Witness

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    sickening

    Rules are rules. It doesn't matter how stupid you think they are. You can't just pick which ones you want to follow. Isn't that what you always tell people when it comes to stupid laws?

    Having lived in a condominium, and been on the HOA board I know how much of a pain in the ass it can be. You can't let one person bend the rules when it comes to community property.
     

    Nolacopusmc

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    Rules are rules. It doesn't matter how stupid you think they are. You can't just pick which ones you want to follow. Isn't that what you always tell people when it comes to stupid laws?

    Having lived in a condominium, and been on the HOA board I know how much of a pain in the ass it can be. You can't let one person bend the rules when it comes to community property.

    Just like the law, they should have discretion and use it.
     

    charliepapa

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    Rules are rules. It doesn't matter how stupid you think they are. You can't just pick which ones you want to follow. Isn't that what you always tell people when it comes to stupid laws?

    Having lived in a condominium, and been on the HOA board I know how much of a pain in the ass it can be. You can't let one person bend the rules when it comes to community property.

    Sure you can, it's called COMMON SENSE; something we've apparently lost touch with as a nation. Has someone actually objected to it or are they just following "the rules"?
     

    jemayeux

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    WTF!!

    Old man should tell the HOA to go to HELL or (Japan/Germany, etc.) b/c that what it would be like if it wasn't for men like him.

    Neighbors should be cutting his grass and washing his car, the least they could do for all the @ss kicking he has done --- so they could live free.
     

    Witness

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    Just like the law, they should have discretion and use it.

    They law does not have discretion, the person enforcing the law has discretion. By moving into this complex he agreed to a very specific set of rules. There is no such thing as discretion in a situation like this, that's not how it works.

    Everything I've seen about this story has nothing to do with the flag and everything to do with a structure he erected on community property. This structure was not approved by the HOA because of liability. If some little kid tries to climb this pole or it falls on someone and smushes them then the HOA will be sued.

    Do I think its ********? Hell yes I do. That doesn't change the fact that he's a resident of a shitty HOA
     
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    Nolacopusmc

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    They law does not have discretion, the person enforcing the law has discretion. By moving into this complex he agreed to a very specific set of rules. There is no such thing as discretion in a situation like this, that's not how it works.

    Everything I've seen about this story has nothing to do with the flag and everything to do with a structure he erected on community property. This structure was not approved by the HOA because of liability. If some little kid tries to climb this pole or it falls on someone and smushes them then the HOA will be sued.

    ^^^^^^ That is why the world would be a better place if a flag pole fell on your head.
     

    Suburbazine

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    They law does not have discretion, the person enforcing the law has discretion. By moving into this complex he agreed to a very specific set of rules. There is no such thing as discretion in a situation like this, that's not how it works.

    Everything I've seen about this story has nothing to do with the flag and everything to do with a structure he erected on community property. This structure was not approved by the HOA because of liability. If some little kid tries to climb this pole or it falls on someone and smushes them then the HOA will be sued.

    Do I think its ********? Hell yes I do. That doesn't change the fact that he's a resident of a shitty HOA

    Thank goodness I live on the only street in my neighborhood that isn't ruled by a HOA.
     

    penguin

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    I paid a pretty big chunk of change to buy my dream home that is in a covenant restricted community. I'm proud of his service, however, I paid more for my property to maintain a certain level of property appearence. he knew the rules when he bought his property. now, if the rules weren't clear then that's different.
     

    Hitman

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    Just like the law, they should have discretion and use it.

    RIGHT ON!

    This also applies to the Freedom of Religion.

    If Islam says they can kill americans, and they do so on our soil, can we not deny them the right to be here REGARDLESS if the Constitution screams Freedom of Religion?

    Same with this man.

    Does his right to freedom of speech not trump everything else?

    Where does it stop? WHo trumps who?

    Will it eventually fall onto private property? Who owns the Land?


    Regardless, it's pathetic when a 90 yr old 3x veteran can't raise a damn flag!

    I almost hate reading stuff like this, just pisses me off for the rest of the day.
     

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    Nolacopusmc

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    Also this isn't the first time the HOA has been in the mix with veterans either.

    Vet's Patriotic Stickers Under Fire

    http://www.myfoxhouston.com/dpp/news/national/dpgo_HOA_Asks_Vet_to_Remove_Bumper_fc_20090528_2518563

    i tell you what, they are lucky it isn't me. Hell, he is 90 years old. You know he has some old grenades or land mines they let him take home. hell, he probably has a flamethrower in the attic.

    You would think just out of general respect they would let it go.
     
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