Extreme Road Rage
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Seems like he did everything right, to me, other than maybe getting the police on the phone a bit sooner. He had a vehicle that still ran, so he kept trying to GTFO.
When the guy starts climbing on my vehicle, I'm pretty sure that's when I decide to shoot, but he doesn't have that ability, surely. He did about everything he could do right.
Crazy bastards out there. That's extreme stuff.
When the guy starts climbing on my vehicle, I'm pretty sure that's when I decide to shoot, but he doesn't have that ability, surely. He did about everything he could do right.
Crazy bastards out there. That's extreme stuff.
Geez.......you think maybe someone has anger issues?
Gringo Loco
Psalms 37
I saw no reason to shoot in that entire video. The best weapon he had was the vehicle he was in. Drive past him, drive thru him, and keep moving.
Much easier to explain to anyone later that "he jumped onto my hood while I was in motion, subsequently he was injured" rather than "he punched my window so I shot him in the face"
I think he did a great job, but if possible just drive straight to the police station.
edit: if he had ever presented a weapon of any fashion- follow suit.
Much easier to explain to anyone later that "he jumped onto my hood while I was in motion, subsequently he was injured" rather than "he punched my window so I shot him in the face"
I think he did a great job, but if possible just drive straight to the police station.
edit: if he had ever presented a weapon of any fashion- follow suit.
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lol I guess that's the difference between your outlook and mine. When an enraged Crocodile Dundee manages to near-pierce the windshield with two blows, after the first one smashed it in like tissue paper, I consider a weapon to be present. Plus, I count him as being lucky that the guy fell off the hood when he drove away - he could have grabbed the hood and held on for the ride - he already seems to be a lunatic with no restraint on going full beast mode with every ounce of effort he could muster.
charliepapa
Clandestine Sciuridae
I may have had to back over him, I mean, back up to check on him after he smashed the windshield.
Holy crap that's scary! As soon as I would have seen the driver drive along side me, I would have the police on the phone and made sure my pistol was within useable distance.
This whole video scares the crap out of me.
This whole video scares the crap out of me.
spec50trout
Well-Known Member
Pit maneuver possibly. Would it have been justified to at least present firearm once assailant jumped onto vehicles "bonnet"?
regarding the construction of a windshield- he wasn't coming through it. sure he can shatter the glass and make it tough to see through, but actually coming through the windshield is a (near) impossibility.
even so- at that point the best response is put it in drive and step on the gas. inflict harm AND provides a method of escape. I've tried holding onto the hood of a moving vehicle, and while I'm not mr. olympia I am far more athletic than the "bloke" in the video. It's damn near impossible, don't let jason statham tell you otherwise.
If he incapacitates my vehicle, gains entry to my vehicle, or makes me feel like my life is in danger- I'd draw. I'm just saying from a personal opinion that in the drivers point of view I never felt like his life was in danger. Maybe you did? I'm not saying its right or wrong, and I don't necessarily disagree with anyone that says they WOULD draw. I'm just saying I personally wouldn't have. I'd have stepped on the gas and kept 911 on speakerphone- which I think was the wisest decision available to the driver.
Kudos to him for ending a crazy situation without loss of life.
You may have seen no reason to, but would he have been justified? Could he have been scared for his life after the guy started ramming him?
Sorry, just reread your last post. I would've probably have driven too. I just wanted to see what others thought about justification. After my original CC class I would've said no, but after my last with a different instructor I say yes, even though its justified after he started ramming. As a last resort, I would've at least waited until he was punching the windshield. I wouldn't care to deal with more legal bs than I have too.
If that situation occurred in our state, I think it'd be questionable enough that charges would be filed... but with that dashcam video I don't think you could find a jury that'd convict.
IMO He made sufficient attempt to remove himself from the situation repeatedly, and could conceivably argue that he was in fear of great bodily harm/for his life if the guy managed on any one of 6 or 7 attempts to roll his vehicle.
It's really scary, because without the dash cam how would he express the level of fear that this guy had? "He sideswiped me and hit me and I was really scared for my life!" - "uh huh"
In my initial viewing I missed the 3 or 4 attempted pits on his car. I'm really on the fence here. If my kids were in the car, I'd have drawn in a heartbeat... especially knowing I had the camera as a witness. A flipped vehicle is definitely a threat to life. This video almost convinces me to get a dash cam. Why not
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