Firemen and steroids
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Guate_shooter
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NOT only Fireman are addicted to them though I have plenty of friends who are of "service" who need that extra strenght as well ...........
It is what it is you are required to be a super hero for 12-16hr shifts and then expected to do it again tomorrow
I dont endorse it but at the same time I understand it
It is what it is you are required to be a super hero for 12-16hr shifts and then expected to do it again tomorrow
I dont endorse it but at the same time I understand it
They have PLENTY of time to get strong and healthy. No reason to cheat with Roids which indeed gives results but also COST you health issues in the long run. So is it really Beneficial? I say no.
I do some training with Ft. Polk's South Fort Fire Crew sometimes. Most of them are Big, not freaks though. More like NFL type. They also have ransom drug screenings and I personally know the Chief. I'd be willing to bet none of them are on Roids.
I do some training with Ft. Polk's South Fort Fire Crew sometimes. Most of them are Big, not freaks though. More like NFL type. They also have ransom drug screenings and I personally know the Chief. I'd be willing to bet none of them are on Roids.
This x 1000....
Don't condone it personally, but completely understand why they do it....
But like Hitman said, the long-term health affects can be devastating...
Is there a "benefit" to it? Yes.....but is the benefit worth the inevitable consequences?
alpinehyperlite
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I know it's about fire fighters, but I would think it would apply to LEO as well in that context. I'm a smaller individual, 5'10 175lbs, and would never claim to be a "badass" but i know I can hold my own out there. Is all about training, and knowledge. I've taken down and detained people much larger than myself. One thing about getting that big, is losing a large amount of flexibility. Its not too difficult to put a larger individual into compliance with different holds, such as a rear wrist lock, as their joints reach the end of their "stretch point" and becomes extremely painful for them to resist. Also, being smaller, it's easier to wiggle out of the hold of a juice head. I would never look to steroids as an option, but the intimidation factor would be a plus.
My thoughts are that I think that steroids are just another path to being big. Not necessarily being strong. Off-cycle sucks. Maybe they fight fires on a 10 week rotation plan, lol
In my experience big people just hit harder. Being big doesn't cost a dime's worth of flexibility. Not stretching does.
Steroids are not necessary. I never understood why people thought they were. Yes, a lot of the fire-fighters where I live juice. Same for the cops. However, a lot of them also don't, and they still perform their jobs admirably. Steroids are a mixed bag. The muscle hypertrophies, but tendon and ligament attachment is not strengthened proportionately. The results are a lot more injuries, as well as the cardiovascular complications and hepatic issues that can also arise.
'roids don't show up on regular screens. It's about a $1500 test from what I have heard, and only sports organizations utilize it that I am aware.
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+1, but using their job to justify it is weak. If they want to do it "I want to do it" is a more direct and sensible justification. I'm with you. Their body, not mine.
This was what I was trying to say. Im fairly large and I Yoga Twice a day and I laugh at Police Academy Control Holds.
The_Shadow
The Shadow Knows!
As a retired Fireman with over 30 years, I never did Steroids, but did try to remain in shape, going from rest to full out on a call, handling heavy gear and equipment at a moments notice was bad enough to add in the heat of major fire incident. Rescue situations have guys going above and beyon their bodies limits. What caused many injuries was medical assit with ambulance crews to lift 300 - 400 LB + paients to get them to medical facilities.
As I made Captain and then Deputy Chief, desk time for reports and computer work, occupied my time where physical activity was less and took its toll...not to mention I like to eat!
I suffer with knees, neck and back pains...but I continue to push to remain mobile.
As I made Captain and then Deputy Chief, desk time for reports and computer work, occupied my time where physical activity was less and took its toll...not to mention I like to eat!
I suffer with knees, neck and back pains...but I continue to push to remain mobile.
No kidding. That kills me. They don't get any lighter and there are a LOT less people around to help once you GET those people to the facility.
Yep, arguing about agility is just the false bravado of a smaller man. It has nothing to do with mass and everything to do with training.
Point and case:
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I don't. You must not understand how much FFs don't do. There's not a fire every shift, and extrication of a person from a vehicle doesn't really require super strength. Helping EMS lift the large patients sure as hell don't require... we can get a big'en up with 4 people total. Steroids in fire are just like steroids in anything else, its for personal gain. The effects on the heart actually put them at a disadvantage because of exertion they may do in a fire... and drop dead afterwards. If anything cardio and endurance is needed more than brute strength.
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