Free Palestine

[thperez1972]

There has been a push to ban it for some time, likely because our own federal government, aka Israel #2, has little say in controlling the algorithm.
However, I would like to take a look back, to the first push for a Tik Tok ban, and see just how many politicians were on board, on both sides of the aisle, and compare it to now, where the push is much stronger, from both sides of the isle.


Trump is very much in Israel's pocket, as much as the rest of them, and he also depends on public perception very much, just like the rest of them. It is in all of their interest to shut down a platform that recommends content that is against whatever they're selling (or whoever is buying them).

Regardless of the past, however, when you have prominent Jewish figures openly stating, very concerningly, "we have a Tik Tok problem", and then you get a massive, bipartisan effort to ban it, I would say that it walks like a duck.

I have no doubt you see the tiktok ban as a reaction to any pro-palestine stuff on the platform. You're biased.

When someone molds the facts to fit their opinion rather than molding their opinion to fit the facts, people see that. They recognize that person's position comes from emotion rather than logic.

 

[CatCam]

Well, you speak on 1948 - let's go back a tad bit earlier. History class in is session:
According to biblical accounts, Jerusalem, on the frontier of Benjamin and Judah and inhabited by a mixed population described as Jebusites, was captured by David, founder of the joint kingdom of Israel and Judah, and the city became the Jewish kingdom’s capital. This has been dated to about 1000 BCE. David’s successor, King Solomon, extended the city and built his Temple on the threshing floor of Araunah (Ornan) the Jebusite. Thus Jerusalem became the place of the royal palace and the sacred site of a monotheistic religion.

 

[Gator 45/70]

Ain't no money in peace boys, Let there be a war.

 

[Manimal]

Well, you speak on 1948 - let's go back a tad bit earlier. History class in is session:
According to biblical accounts, Jerusalem, on the frontier of Benjamin and Judah and inhabited by a mixed population described as Jebusites, was captured by David, founder of the joint kingdom of Israel and Judah, and the city became the Jewish kingdom’s capital. This has been dated to about 1000 BCE. David’s successor, King Solomon, extended the city and built his Temple on the threshing floor of Araunah (Ornan) the Jebusite. Thus Jerusalem became the place of the royal palace and the sacred site of a monotheistic religion.

That's Jerusalem, not Israel, not the ancient olive orchards and treaty breaking/illegal settlements,
that's not trade and travel restriction...it's Jerusalem.

 

[GunRelated]

I have no doubt you see the tiktok ban as a reaction to any pro-palestine stuff on the platform. You're biased.

When someone molds the facts to fit their opinion rather than molding their opinion to fit the facts, people see that. They recognize that person's position comes from emotion rather than logic.

I base none of this claim off of emotion. I base it off the fact, and it is a 100% fact, that a large number of our politicians are funded by Israeli lobbies and organizations. I base it off the fact that prominent Israelis are calling for a ban on tik Tok due to anti Israel sentiment. I base it off the fact that Israel tends to get what it wants when it comes to US politics, one way or the other.

 

[thperez1972]

I base none of this claim off of emotion. I base it off the fact, and it is a 100% fact, that a large number of our politicians are funded by Israeli lobbies and organizations.

Ok.

I base it off the fact that prominent Israelis are calling for a ban on tik Tok due to anti Israel sentiment.

Many groups call for the ban of many platforms due to many issues. I don't doubt that prominent Israelis are calling for a ban on tiktok due to anti Israel sentiment.

I base it off the fact that Israel tends to get what it wants when it comes to US politics, one way or the other.

This has not been established as fact. This is an opinion. Even if it weren't an opinion, it would still not establish a connection between the wishes of some Israelis and the ban. Again, correlation does not equal causation.

When I brought up Trump's executive order that was signed 3 years before the hashtags, you explained Trump is very much in Israel's pocket, implying that Israel was the cause of that executive order. Trump openly opposes the current ban. If he's in Israel's pocket and may be the next president, he's advocating not giving Israel what they want. That doesn't sound like someone in Israel's pocket.

 

[GunRelated]

Ok.



Many groups call for the ban of many platforms due to many issues. I don't doubt that prominent Israelis are calling for a ban on tiktok due to anti Israel sentiment.



This has not been established as fact. This is an opinion. Even if it weren't an opinion, it would still not establish a connection between the wishes of some Israelis and the ban. Again, correlation does not equal causation.

When I brought up Trump's executive order that was signed 3 years before the hashtags, you explained Trump is very much in Israel's pocket, implying that Israel was the cause of that executive order. Trump openly opposes the current ban. If he's in Israel's pocket and may be the next president, he's advocating not giving Israel what they want. That doesn't sound like someone in Israel's pocket.

Fair enough. Let's see how it plays out.

 

[Kuhndog]

I hope israel wipes gaza off the map and erases it from history

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[Bigchillin83]

poor fella was just trying to take down a foreign flag

 

[CatCam]

get ready for that here.....

 

[GunRelated]

It's China's fault that so many people are against Israel and their actions... We must ban it.

 

[thperez1972]

It's China's fault that so many people are against Israel and their actions... We must ban it.

Even though I've used the term "ban" before, the law does not call for the banning of tiktok. The company with ties to China is required to sell its interest in the company. They have about 9 months to do it. The penalty for noncompliance is having tiktok banned.

The video you posted is not why they want tiktok banned. It's a byproduct of the problem, China's influence through the platform. It would be similar to your toes being numb because your leg is broken. You don't go to the doctor because your toes are numb, you go to take care of the broken leg. In taking care of the actual problem, all of the little problems and symptoms are also taken care of.

So, again, this is not a new attempt to fix the actual problem. The great seer Trump tried it well before this one. The problem hasn't changed even if the symptoms may be different.

tl;dr: the facts won't change your opinion.

 

[Magdump]

4:20-4:50

 

[Gator 45/70]

4:20-4:50

Sorry, couldn't listen to all his babble, Are they back to worshiping cows again?
That has never worked out has it?

 

[Bolt Head]

4:20-4:50

This reminds me. It's about time to head to my slaughterhouse-of-choice and restock a few beef options, and maybe have another Steak Day celebrated with tenderloin steaks cut to 3" thick.
May grab more of their amazing bacon while I'm there.

 

[falshooter]

 

[Bigchillin83]

Coming to a location near you

Closer to home then you think


Demands are made lol


Sojic-Borne said the group would pressure the jail to release the arrested protesters and demand that Tulane divests from Israel.

More than a dozen arrests made at pro-Palestine protestor encampment on Tulane campus

NEW ORLEANS - Fourteen arrests were made after police moved in on a protestor encampment on Tulane campus early Wednesday morning in an attempt to disperse a pro-Palestine crowd.

www.wbrz.com

 

[AK shooter]

These pro plaestine protesters should go volunteer to fight Isreal and really make a difference.

 

[Bigchillin83]

These pro plaestine protesters should go volunteer to fight Isreal and really make a difference.

The majority of them wouldn’t even be accepted by the Palestinians and would be stoned in the street because of the thoughts, beliefs, and Stance on the lgbqt+_%*, let alone a woman with free speech.. she will only speak her mind once lol

 

[AK shooter]

The majority of them wouldn’t even be accepted by the Palestinians and would be stoned in the street because of the thoughts, beliefs, and Stance on the lgbqt+_%*

Now you see where I was going with that comment.