HB 160 cleared committee today: tannerite, explosive pemit needed, felony without.

[themcfarland]

Now that is has been changed, does it then go back to someone for approval before again going to floor??

 

[Captain_Morgan]

Passed with amendments.
95 yea
0 nay

Page 1 line 19 changed "unmixed" to "mixed"
On page 2 lines after "combined" and before "form" insert "in quantities greater than five pounds"

http://www.legis.la.gov/Legis/ViewD...use Floor Amendment #2858 St. Germain Adopted

Sent to the Senate.

I think that is a reasonable compromise.

Here is the full text of the bill including the amendments.

http://www.legis.la.gov/legis/ViewDocument.aspx?d=892524&n=HB160%20Reengrossed

 

[Ellis1958]

Now that is has been changed, does it then go back to someone for approval before again going to floor??

Bill has passed the House and going to the Senate.

Final bill as approved by the House.
http://www.legis.la.gov/legis/ViewDocument.aspx?d=892524&n=HB160%20Reengrossed

 

[Hitman]

Just read it.

Going to need some time/help deciphering it though.

As in, cannot possess more than 5lbs? cannot use more than 5lbs? cannot purchase more than 5lbs at a time?
etc.etc.etc. ..... ?

Is RS 14:54.3 the exclusive law regarding explosives?

 

[Vermiform]

I think that is a reasonable compromise.

I think it is far from reasonable but we were lucky to get it and we were very fortunate that the LSA was there looking out for us.

 

[Vermiform]

Just read it.

Going to need some time/help deciphering it though.

As in, cannot possess more than 5lbs? cannot use more than 5lbs? cannot purchase more than 5lbs at a time?
etc.etc.etc. ..... ?

Is RS 14:54.3 the exclusive law regarding explosives?

I'm not positive but it look like there is no limit to the amount of precursor you are allowed to own, but you can only possess 5 pounds of it MIXED.

 

[madwabbit]

I'm not positive but it look like there is no limit to the amount of precursor you are allowed to own, but you can only possess 5 pounds of it MIXED.

correct.

3 tons on the left. legal.
3 tons on the right. legal.
6 pounds mixed- illegal.

 

[dzelenka]

correct.

3 tons on the left. legal.
3 tons on the right. legal.
6 pounds mixed- illegal.

That's how I read it. I think the compromise is good. Basically, it means you will not be able to blow up more than 5 lbs at a time. You can bring plenty of precursor to the range and mix it 5 lbs at the time as often as you like.

 

[Jack]

correct.

3 tons on the left. legal.
3 tons on the right. legal.
6 pounds mixed- illegal.

Kinda

Possessing more than 25 pounds of AN requires paperwork, ID, etc.

 

[Hitman]

Kinda

Possessing more than 25 pounds of AN requires paperwork, ID, etc.

ZING! Good Point!

 

[Vermiform]

So any updates on this one?

 

[nolaradio]

Latest that I could find: http://www.legis.la.gov/legis/BillInfo.aspx?i=223817

 

[#1bambam]

Kinda

Possessing more than 25 pounds of AN requires paperwork, ID, etc.

Better tell that to the plant store that sells 50 lb bags of AN at a time.That is if by AN you mean ammonium nitrate or fertilizer.

 

[Vanilla Gorilla]

Your assuming that whats in the bag is pure AN. I doubt it is. That much Nitrogen would burn up almost all plants.

 

[Jack]

Better tell that to the plant store that sells 50 lb bags of AN at a time.That is if by AN you mean ammonium nitrate or fertilizer.

I'm sure they will tell me it isn't pure AN, it is mixed with iron oxide, which stops it from being used as an explosive.

 

[#1bambam]

Your assuming that whats in the bag is pure AN. I doubt it is. That much Nitrogen would burn up almost all plants.

It says it is on the bag and it works great bluing guns.Where is the law you speak of needing permits and "OKs" for AN?

 

[#1bambam]

I'm sure they will tell me it isn't pure AN, it is mixed with iron oxide, which stops it from being used as an explosive.

Well they tell me it is and it works great to blue guns.

 

[#1bambam]

You can buy ammonium nitrate on Ebay thats 99.6% pure without any permits or papers.

 

[#1bambam]

You can order it by the metric ton if you do a little google fu.

 

[sportsbud]

Total bs, really regulating things that need not be regulated, and being one of the few that touch it, it's just like black powder, but I can buy the parts to make black powder and make as much as possible, they still think a peice of paper stops people that would do that anyway, it's pretty damn funny in my book...