In cajun country, there is no okra in gumbo -- that is if it is a roux gumbo. There is however something called okra gumbo. This is more creole and uses no roux. I have seen this only with chicken and sausage. The okra is what thickens this recipe. It takes a lots of okra, cooked down first to where it is not slimy -- not just the small amount that you will find in those roux gumbos where people put okra in it. This probably can be made with or without tomatoes, although the wife makes hers without. It is quite good but should not be confused with the cajun roux gumbo -- 2 distinct dishes.