I guess this is one reason we can't carry on campus...

[LSU2010]

I just got this from LSU public affairs. I don't think its cool to use my expensive as education time for others to play jackboot thugs. Anyway, teams of students running around in bullet proofs vest need not alarm OC/CCers or heroes in the surrounding area.

WTF do they need bullet proof vest?

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from Public Affairs <pubaffairs@lsu.edu>
to Broadcast_LSU_Community@gateway.lsu.edu
date Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 4:19 PM
subject On-Campus Mock Training Scenarios

On Tuesday, Oct. 20, LSU Career Services and the LSU E. J. Ourso College of Business, in collaboration with Internal Revenue Service Criminal Investigation, or IRS-CI, will present an interactive training seminar offering a group of qualified students a unique opportunity to participate in a mock financial criminal investigation similar to those conducted by the Special Agents of IRS-CI. Participants will travel to multiple locations in official IRS-CI garb conducting investigations, executing search warrants, and even arresting mock perpetrators.

All students, faculty, and staff on campus on Tuesday should be aware that the students involved in the training seminar will be dressed in official IRS-CI attire, including jackets and bullet-proof vests while executing mock raids and arrests on campus.

The University would like to stress that these students are ONLY participating in a seminar, and that there is no actual danger or cause for alarm.

 

[JadeRaven]

I thought it was illegal for a student to wear body armor on campus. . .

 

[LSU2010]

I thought it was illegal for a student to wear body armor on campus. . .

there's an exception if you impersonating a federal agent....

Does anyone have the law on that on? Isn't it from last session?

 

[Manimal]

I thought it was illegal for a student to wear body armor on campus. . .

I think only if committing a crime. ^^^

IRS enforcement agents are some of the best trained CQCB people there are.

 

[Born4spd]

I think only if committing a crime. ^^^

IRS enforcement agents are some of the best trained CQCB people there are.

Duh, they rob people.
They have to be good.

 

[LSU2010]

I thought they just passed a law saying one couldn't wear armor at schools?

edit: found it. Posted by bearit on another thread. I am going to email the admins and school paper....

RS 14:95:9

§95.9. Wearing or possessing body armor, by a student or nonstudent on school property, at school-sponsored functions, or in firearm-free zones

A. Wearing or possessing body armor, by a student or nonstudent on school property, at a school-sponsored function, or in a firearm-free zone is unlawful and shall be defined as wearing or possessing of body armor, on one's person, at any time while on a school campus, on school transportation, or at any school-sponsored function in a specific designated area including but not limited to athletic competitions, dances, parties, or any extracurricular activities, or within one thousand feet of any school campus.

B. For purposes of this Section, the following words have the following meanings:

(1) "Body armor" shall mean bullet-resistant metal or other material intended to provide protection from weapons or bodily injury.

(2) "Campus" means all facilities and property within the boundary of the school property.

(3) "Nonstudent" means any person not registered and enrolled in that school or a suspended student who does not have permission to be on the school campus.

(4) "School" means any elementary, secondary, high school, vocational-technical school, college, or university in this state.

(5) "School bus" means any motor bus being used to transport children to and from school or in connection with school activities.

C. The provisions of this Section shall not apply to:

(1) A federal, state, or local law enforcement officer in the performance of his official duties.

(2) A school official or employee acting during the normal course of his employment or a student acting under the direction of such school official or employee.

(3) A person who has notified the school principal or chancellor in writing at least twenty-four hours prior to wearing body armor.

(4) The wearing or possessing of body armor occurring within one thousand feet of school property and entirely on private property, or entirely within a private residence, or in accordance with a concealed handgun permit issued pursuant to R.S. 40:1379.1.

(5) Any constitutionally protected activity which cannot be regulated by the state, such as body armor contained entirely within a motor vehicle.

(6) Any student wearing or possessing body armor to or from a class, in which he is duly enrolled, that requires the use of the body armor in the class.

(7) A student enrolled or participating in an activity requiring the use of body armor.

D. Whoever commits the crime of wearing or possessing body armor by a student or nonstudent on school property, at a school-sponsored function, or in a firearm-free zone shall be fined not more than one thousand dollars, or imprisoned, without hard labor, for not less than six months nor more than one year, or both.

E. Lack of knowledge that the prohibited act occurred on or within one thousand feet of school property shall not be a defense.

F.(1) School officials shall notify all students and parents of the impact of this legislation and shall post notices of the impact of this Section at each major point of entry to the school. These notices shall be maintained as permanent notices.

(2) If a student is detained by the principal or other school official for violation of this Section or the school principal or other school official confiscates or seizes body armor from a student while upon school property, at a school function, or on a school bus, the principal or other school official in charge at the time of the detention or seizure shall immediately report the detention or seizure to the police department or sheriff's department where the school is located and shall deliver any body armor seized to that agency.

(3) If a student is detained pursuant to Paragraph (2) of this Subsection for wearing or possessing body armor on campus, the principal shall immediately notify the student's parents.

G. Any principal or school official in charge who fails to report the detention of a student or the seizure of body armor to a law enforcement agency as required by Paragraph (F)(2) of this Section within seventy-two hours of notice of the detention or seizure may be issued a misdemeanor summons for a violation of this Section and may be fined not more than five hundred dollars or sentenced to not more than forty hours of community service, or both. Upon successful completion of the community service or payment of the fine, or both, the arrest and conviction shall be set aside as provided for in Code of Criminal Procedure Article 894(B).

Acts 2008, No. 747, §1.

 

[Manimal]

May have LSU2010 but if LSU says its OK its OK regardless of federal law. That's how some schools in Utah allow people to carry firearms on campus & such. LSU will OK it for them, even if its still against the law the students get a pass b/c they are working with LSU and the IRS so the law doesnt matter.

Remember, following laws doesnt really matter when it comes to government unless they murder you...then the laws still usually do not matter.

Who's going to file a civil/criminal suit against the students for it & who would listen?

 

[LSU2010]

May have LSU2010 but if LSU says its OK its OK regardless of federal law. That's how some schools in Utah allow people to carry firearms on campus & such. LSU will OK it for them, even if its still against the law the students get a pass b/c they are working with LSU and the IRS so the law doesnt matter.

Remember, following laws doesnt really matter when it comes to government unless they murder you...then the laws still usually do not matter.

Who's going to file a civil/criminal suit against the students for it & who would listen?

you're right. If they have permission they have permission.
Actually, law just says you have to notify chancellor or principal 24h in advance. Does that mean you still need expressed permission?

 

[Manimal]

(3) A person who has notified the school principal or chancellor in writing at least twenty-four hours prior to wearing body armor.

Sounds like it's not an issue of permission but simple notification.

I'm not a lawyer, should ask one to read and intepret the law...then ask about 5 more before you trust your freedom and criminal record to one.

If its an issue of notification, and I was still in school, I might be inclined to write a letter saying that I would be wearing body armor every day...just because & so I'd have the freedom to do so if I wanted.

 

[SKIPP3RLANDRY]

all laws are meant to keep sheeple in line. they are not for those that are outside normal schools of humans doing normal routine activities.

everyone knows most laws are meant to restrict activities and mostly give legal authority to the government to do what they want to whomever they want whenever they want.

laws are not meant to protect anyone before the fact, they are for dealing with the cleanup after the fact.

and why every level of government is exempt from the laws they make.

there truly are two classes of people, but not the two we are told about.

 

[sylvest]

I still dont understand the whole point of this "exercise".

What are they trying to teach?

 

[Storm52]

how to spy on your neighbors and family and be able to provide first hand info on what happens to them for non-compliance.

 

[LSU2010]

I still dont understand the whole point of this "exercise".

What are they trying to teach?

teach us to pay our taxes or irs ninjas are coming and we better have splosives and AP ammo or a check/MO to USofA, Inc.

I think it's recruitment/interviews for public service. I have been seeing a spike in gov't recruitment/job offers coming through the various clubs and orgs I'm in.
none sent to sccc though....

 

[kdick3]

So I read it like this:

"Ignore all suspicious looking characters, we're playing war games with tax payer money this week. If you see someone suspicious looking ignore them and be about your merry way. Especially don't notify LSU-PD, we're playing a big game of cops and robbers and don't want to give LSU-PD an edge on their competition."

I wonder how they can still afford to play cops and robbers but can't afford to pay teachers...

 

[LSU2010]

So I read it like this:

"Ignore all suspicious looking characters, we're playing war games with tax payer money this week. If you see someone suspicious looking ignore them and be about your merry way. Especially don't notify LSU-PD, we're playing a big game of cops and robbers and don't want to give LSU-PD an edge on their competition."

I wonder how they can still afford to play cops and robbers but can't afford to pay teachers...

you whinny college prick. Why do you think they'e there? How much does your car cost? it's called "clunker for you, pay for us." You go to school, the lsu branded irs agents assess the values of your vehicle, and sell it. Part of the profit goes to buying you a brand new clunker and the rest goes to the poor professor fund. Brought to you by President Lom-iamdouchebag-bardi and friends.

That's why they're there and I figure it out!

 

[Jimmy Dean]

you're right. If they have permission they have permission.
Actually, law just says you have to notify chancellor or principal 24h in advance. Does that mean you still need expressed permission?

How it reads, you need to notify the dean, that does not mean that he has to give you permission. You just need to notify him.

i.e. send him a letter every day that you will be wearing body are in, say, one week's time. He is notified. And wear your body armor.

 

[LSU2010]

How it reads, you need to notify the dean, that does not mean that he has to give you permission. You just need to notify him.

i.e. send him a letter every day that you will be wearing body are in, say, one week's time. He is notified. And wear your body armor.

I would be curious if that permission extended into the 1000 ft zone around the school....

 

[oleheat]

So.....I wonder- does the "no body armor" law also apply to bullet-resistant backpacks?

http://www.backpacksheild.com/faq.htm

 

[LSU2010]

So.....I wonder- does the "no body armor" law also apply to bullet-resistant backpacks?

http://www.backpacksheild.com/faq.htm

(1) "Body armor" shall mean bullet-resistant metal or other material intended to provide protection from weapons or bodily injury.

I think that's a no go.

damn it, my hands are body armor.

 

[Yrdawg]

you whinny college prick. Why do you think they'e there? How much does your car cost? it's called "clunker for you, pay for us." You go to school, the lsu branded irs agents assess the values of your vehicle, and sell it. Part of the profit goes to buying you a brand new clunker and the rest goes to the poor professor fund. Brought to you by President Lom-iamdouchebag-bardi and friends.

That's why they're there and I figure it out!

Hunh ??

Wut d he say ??????