ID when buying a firearm

[oldman45]

Has anyone here ever used their concealed weapons permit as indentification when purchasing a gun?

I have always just shown my drivers license to the gun dealer but was buying a gun today and saw a gentleman using his CWP as identification.

Is that legal? If so, does it help avoid being delayed?

 

[rcm192]

I've heard that you can use your CHP to skip the phone call to the NICS examiners in certain states, but dont hold me to it. Im not sure how it would avoid being delayed. Its the same info thats on your DL that they would ask for on the phone.

 

[bwalke1]

no, but i did use it for ID to get my passport, the lady at the clerk of court office said let me see some ID so i showed them my Driver's license. i had just had it renewed in june. she looked at it and said i cant use this , why, because it's to "new". uh okay what can i use then, do you have your old expirered license, no but i have CWP, okay she said, that will work. really? i asked her what's the problem with a "new" license and she told me you could be a terrorist that just got a fake ID who happened to be born in white castle la. and have green eyes with a louisiana accent. okay. so a CWP does come in handy for something. never argue with the girls at the clerk of court, besides they are very pretty!

 

[oldman45]

no, but i did use it for ID to get my passport,

Speaking of passports, have you heard anything about a passport being needed soon to get inside a Federal building? I read last week that a new law was going to make having a passport almost mandatory.

 

[bwalke1]

that is correct, and you will need it to fly cross country in the USA after jan. 1st. the DHS says the La. (and several other states)drivers license is no longer a valid ID. Of course an extension could be filed to extend the time frame but that's what's on the books as of now.

Speaking of passports, have you heard anything about a passport being needed soon to get inside a Federal building? I read last week that a new law was going to make having a passport almost mandatory.

 

[jasonj5313]

U can indeed in some States bypass nics with a cwp.

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[oldman45]

U can indeed in some States bypass nics with a cwp.

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OK but is one of those states being Louisiana?

 

[Suburbazine]

I couldn't sell you a weapon based on your CHP. On the 4473 form I have to fill out and submit I'm required to collect a valid driver's license number. Otherwise, I would be jeopardizing the company's FFL if something went wrong later.

There may be some exception to this rule but I haven't been taught it yet.

 

[jasonj5313]

OK but is one of those states being Louisiana?

No,

I Think its the States decision.

I seem to remember something about States choosing if they want to use nics or their own state police to do checks.

I could be wrong about that.


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[JNieman]

I couldn't sell you a weapon based on your CHP. On the 4473 form I have to fill out and submit I'm required to collect a valid driver's license number. Otherwise, I would be jeopardizing the company's FFL if something went wrong later.

There may be some exception to this rule but I haven't been taught it yet.

I've used it at some. The DL/ID# on my CHP is the same as my Driver's License number. I've pretty much used my CHP for everything you need a picture ID for by now, I think, just out of curiosity. Banks, concerts, bars, police, court, and more I probably can't recall.

 

[LACamper]

Ask for ID?

Racist!!!!

 

[oldman45]

I couldn't sell you a weapon based on your CHP. On the 4473 form I have to fill out and submit I'm required to collect a valid driver's license number. Otherwise, I would be jeopardizing the company's FFL if something went wrong later.

There may be some exception to this rule but I haven't been taught it yet.

OK, I know a lot of people that do not have a driver's license but own firearms. What does one do when the person does not have a DL?

 

[Bill Baldwin]

No,

I Think its the States decision.

I seem to remember something about States choosing if they want to use nics or their own state police to do checks.

I could be wrong about that.


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It's up to the ATF and based on the background check performed by the state for the firearms permit. Here's a list of state permits that qualify for alternatives to the background check requirements.

http://www.atf.gov/firearms/brady-law/permit-chart.html

 

[pepe lepew]

no, but i did use it for ID to get my passport, the lady at the clerk of court office said let me see some ID so i showed them my Driver's license. i had just had it renewed in june. she looked at it and said i cant use this , why, because it's to "new". uh okay what can i use then, do you have your old expirered license, no but i have CWP, okay she said, that will work. really? i asked her what's the problem with a "new" license and she told me you could be a terrorist that just got a fake ID who happened to be born in white castle la. and have green eyes with a louisiana accent. okay. so a CWP does come in handy for something. never argue with the girls at the clerk of court, besides they are very pretty!

wow, how stupid, so you could have been a terrorist with CWP...... hahahaha

 

[pepe lepew]

that is correct, and you will need it to fly cross country in the USA after jan. 1st. the DHS says the La. (and several other states)drivers license is no longer a valid ID. Of course an extension could be filed to extend the time frame but that's what's on the books as of now.

proof of the U.S. guberment stopping at nothing when it comes to controlling the masses ........

 

[oldman45]

It's up to the ATF and based on the background check performed by the state for the firearms permit. Here's a list of state permits that qualify for alternatives to the background check requirements.

http://www.atf.gov/firearms/brady-law/permit-chart.html

Thank you for posting that link.

Now I wonder why Louisiana is not eligible. The background check in Louisiana is more strict than any other state and has more hoops that has to be jumped through. Getting a permit in TX is so easy that it is almost a joke but TX is far more permittee friendly with their laws. Best not have a gun anywhere near the Capitol in BR here but over in TX, having a permit and a gun gets one to the head of the line when touring the Austin Capitol.

 

[eagle359]

Prior to NICS a CHP allowed the holder to avoid the five day wait.

 

[Bill Baldwin]

Thank you for posting that link.

Now I wonder why Louisiana is not eligible. The background check in Louisiana is more strict than any other state and has more hoops that has to be jumped through. Getting a permit in TX is so easy that it is almost a joke but TX is far more permittee friendly with their laws. Best not have a gun anywhere near the Capitol in BR here but over in TX, having a permit and a gun gets one to the head of the line when touring the Austin Capitol.

Louisiana may not run periodic NICS checks on permit holders like some other states do.

 

[oldman45]

Prior to NICS a CHP allowed the holder to avoid the five day wait.

What five day wait? The Brady law only requires a three day wait. Some states like CA has a 10-15 day wait but the Brady law says three according to my understanding.

I am ticked about being delayed. It does not happen often although I buy guns often. I bought a gun a few months back in a town about 70 miles from here. I was delayed. Waited around for about a hour in the town and was not called. Drove home and was called about when I pulled into my drive. A 140 miles round trip and two hours time just to pick up a gun. Locally, I bought a gun and was delayed. Left the store, got about two blocks and was called to pick up my gun.

Things like the above really tick me off.

 

[eagle359]

What five day wait? The Brady law only requires a three day wait. Some states like CA has a 10-15 day wait but the Brady law says three according to my understanding.

Three or five-I had a CHP back then so I never waited.