Look, I am glad we have cops. I support and respect what they have to do. And any time someone prefixes a post with statements like that, you know they're about to say something anti-cop, and this may be one of those.
When it comes to gun rights... it very much is "us vs them" - sorry, that's how we've been played. That's how the gun grabbers see it, and so that's the fight we have to face. You have to remind and reaffirm to society that "good people" is not just cops and you have to admit that not all cops are "good people". "Good people" with guns are the best thing for a safe society. "Good people" needs to stop being defined as "government employed" as if that's some Papal decree of holy order. Actually, considering current controversies, maybe the Papal comparison is appropriate...
Driving a wedge between "police" and "other people" is a step in the wrong direction.
I'd rather go one more year without good-guys being able to carry guns in my kid's school (random example) with higher hopes of getting equal liberty later. I would rather not sell off liberty and continue us down a more tyrannical path one more step in hopes of some touted sense of security.
Sorry, I've seen cops shoot. Most suck dick. I was well out-shot by a cop the last class I went to, but out-shot another by far, and I was on one of my worst days in a long time. I've read the statistics. I've seen the news. I have no hopes that cops will be all that helpful other than providing the "initial confrontation" that most mass shooters use as the time to 'off themselves'.
The average joe is not much better, but slightly is. This isn't about putting "someone" in in there with a gun. It's about the best step or direction toward getting /me/ to be able to be armed where I go. I can only trust myself. I don't support anything that puts me in a position to "hope" the guy they /allowed/ to be armed in the area is good at what he does. I have little reason to expect that turns out in my favor.
When it comes to gun rights... it very much is "us vs them" - sorry, that's how we've been played. That's how the gun grabbers see it, and so that's the fight we have to face. You have to remind and reaffirm to society that "good people" is not just cops and you have to admit that not all cops are "good people". "Good people" with guns are the best thing for a safe society. "Good people" needs to stop being defined as "government employed" as if that's some Papal decree of holy order. Actually, considering current controversies, maybe the Papal comparison is appropriate...
Driving a wedge between "police" and "other people" is a step in the wrong direction.
I'd rather go one more year without good-guys being able to carry guns in my kid's school (random example) with higher hopes of getting equal liberty later. I would rather not sell off liberty and continue us down a more tyrannical path one more step in hopes of some touted sense of security.
Sorry, I've seen cops shoot. Most suck dick. I was well out-shot by a cop the last class I went to, but out-shot another by far, and I was on one of my worst days in a long time. I've read the statistics. I've seen the news. I have no hopes that cops will be all that helpful other than providing the "initial confrontation" that most mass shooters use as the time to 'off themselves'.
The average joe is not much better, but slightly is. This isn't about putting "someone" in in there with a gun. It's about the best step or direction toward getting /me/ to be able to be armed where I go. I can only trust myself. I don't support anything that puts me in a position to "hope" the guy they /allowed/ to be armed in the area is good at what he does. I have little reason to expect that turns out in my favor.
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