If you're an LEO or not, I'd like everyone's thoughts on this. The city of New Orleans is starting an independent office to monitor and control all of NOPDs off duty gigs. I've heard back channel grumblings from some NOPD friends. What say you, BS forum?
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I'm not a LEO. Nor am I well versed in LEO employment. But typically off duty LEO's are used to monitor events, places of business, certain public affairs, etc. So how does using tax payer money to pay monitors make any sense when their job is to monitor LEO's who are monitoring off duty?
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Okay. I misunderstood the fact this was going to be an outside agency.
All law enforcement agencies I know of have a PAO or public assignment office. This is a department employee(s) tasked with receiving and assigning details.
My thoughts on the NOPD situation are that after years of having a good old boy system, where some got literally rich, they have decided to take the job out of the departments hands and task a disinterested third party with the job.
All law enforcement agencies I know of have a PAO or public assignment office. This is a department employee(s) tasked with receiving and assigning details.
My thoughts on the NOPD situation are that after years of having a good old boy system, where some got literally rich, they have decided to take the job out of the departments hands and task a disinterested third party with the job.
There's a new office located within the Chief Admin Officer's office (redundant, I know). NOPD will have zero influence on how details are assigned. Those receiving detail requests are paid a flat salary with no commissions or cuts of the details. NOPD officers will be forced to rotate off their details at least once a year.
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Prior to last year, our small municipal department's union controlled extra-duty assignments. For the most part, details were distributed equitably and everything ran smoothly.
After disputes over job performance between one particular officer and several detail employers, the COP decided that extra-duty should be taken over by the department. Since that time, politics and favoritism have apparently become the norm. Also, an exacerbating factor in the situation is that the person that was assigned to schedule details (a senior department employee) doesn't want the responsibility or believe that the department should be involved.
After disputes over job performance between one particular officer and several detail employers, the COP decided that extra-duty should be taken over by the department. Since that time, politics and favoritism have apparently become the norm. Also, an exacerbating factor in the situation is that the person that was assigned to schedule details (a senior department employee) doesn't want the responsibility or believe that the department should be involved.
I used to hire a lot of BRPD officers for off duty assignments at the company I used to work for. I had to go through a specific LT to make that happen. He monitored all of the officers and coordinated shifts. When I had to have someone, it was usually for several weeks or months. That would require multiple officers for any single position because they were all there on their day off. If I had multiple shifts/positions at times, there could be 10+/- officers coming and going in a week. No way in @*&# I could have managed that without the departments help.
I may be mistaken, but I believe a large part of the problem was that not all details were ever managed by NOPD as an entity. Some were managed through the department, but officers were able to arrange details on their own by getting a group together with a merchant and organizing their own schedules and negotiating fees without the department being involved.
All of our details are through the department, and we've established a system that gives everyone a fair shot at getting good picks.
All of our details are through the department, and we've established a system that gives everyone a fair shot at getting good picks.
dixiejarhead
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As far as I know, none of the details were managed by the department, but by each detail coordinator, who is an officer. I think as long as there is no conflict of interest, it should remain the way it is.
dixiejarhead
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That's what the news article says on nola.com. Only needs to be an independent oversight committee. As far as corruption, well start at the mayors office and city council's office and work down. The appointment of the current chief to 'stop' corruption is a joke.
I remember in the 70s/80s when a "detail" consisted of on duty officers stopping in a bar, having a drink, and collecting $100.
dixiejarhead
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No, I won't. Sorry. It should be pretty apparant to most though. Bringing in an "insider" to clean up a department that has deep rooted problems and issues? uh huh...
I'm going to bump this back to the top.
The new NOPD detail rates have been posted. it looks like the standard rate for an NOPD officer to work a private detail is $34. That's $29 to the officer and $5 as an administrative fee. This fee is to go to the new office to fund its employees salaries and the overhead costs of running essentially a security firm. NOPD officers are calling this a "tax" and have threatened to boycott private detail work.
The new NOPD detail rates have been posted. it looks like the standard rate for an NOPD officer to work a private detail is $34. That's $29 to the officer and $5 as an administrative fee. This fee is to go to the new office to fund its employees salaries and the overhead costs of running essentially a security firm. NOPD officers are calling this a "tax" and have threatened to boycott private detail work.
They won't.
