Bit of a rant/question/tell me if I'm wrong moment.
I've never really asked anyone but this weekend had an incident that aggravated me enough to bring it up here.
Here's the deal.
Right handed, Worn contacts since 13 years old, 31 now, yearly eye exam always had the same prescription in both eyes. As far as I can tell, through all the non scientific tests for eye dominance, I have don't have one. The hole in the hand/paper brought to your eye test yields about a 50/50 result, and sometimes its funny to watch bc i'll get 6 inches from my nose and the lack of dominance is clearly visible as the paper stops and I go crosseyed.
I honestly don't know if vision per eye is what dictates the dominant eye, being I have the same prescription in both I would just assume that is a contributor. I have been shooting for 10 years, and because of the issue, I CANNOT SHOOT ISOSCELES. Having the gun centered or close to it in that stance puts my eyes constantly fighting each other and I notice when my left takes over and have to squint my left eye for a second to get the right to take back over until it happens all over again.
Due to all that I have always shot in what I knew as modified Weaver, I guess others call it Chapman but I didn't know that was a thing until a few years ago. I just did what was comfortable. Right arm locked straight, left just slightly bent, body slightly bladed but still mostly square to target, and cheek naturally against inside right bicep, push/pull and thumbs forward grip. Now when I do this, it's instinctive, from a draw it just all snaps into place, even from compressed ready, 10 years of shooting this way it's instinctive, and I have NEVER had an accuracy problem (at least not from stance, trigger control is another story). Having my right eye looking straight down my arm into the sights helps to keep my right eye in charge. Some days I do have to just barely squint my left to keep it that way. So tell me, AM I WRONG?? Any suggestions?
What led to this is post is I went to a Big Box outdoors store to look at a certain gun, I usually get it, point towards floor and index the sights a few times, and if there is an empty/safe area, I'll safety check again and point it towards a wall in my preferred stance, no high speed ninja stuff just casually, slowly, and safely, always treating it as if it were loaded, no muzzle sweep, etc. My whole goal is to see how naturally it points, if I can properly index the front post with minimal correction when punching out, etc.
Well this guy at a case next to me was watching me I guess and said "That's not a good position" I politely said "I know, but I have my reasons for it, thanks though" Well that wasn't enough and he went on to tell me all about what I needed to do, I let him drone on without even acknowledging him, just looking over the case. I asked to see another gun and when I went to raise it he decided to touch my left elbow into the locked position, I locked the slide, set the gun down, and in so many maybe more intense words said, don't touch me again, I appreciate your help, but did not ask nor do I need it, I have an eye dominance issue and shoot the way I shoot, and have never had a problem. (I have had to defend my stance a few times over the years so I'm used to it.) I guess it shocked him as he apologized, said he just likes to help new shooters. I let him know in a less than friendly way that I wasn't a new shooter, and did not need his assistance. I moved a few cases down and nothing else was said by either one of us.
In all the times I have been to ranges/gunstores, I have never once tried to correct or help someone unsolicited (unless I hear the word clip then it's like Tourette's and I cant help it). I am NO EXPERT in anything but I have been asked questions, and if wanted, will offer an opinion, but I am of the belief people in this day and age need to mind their own business a little more, and post a few less pictures of their meals on facebook.
With all that said, if that guy is a member here, I'm kinda sorry if I over reacted, but not really.
And to everyone else, Am I wrong in my philosophy on my stance or any opinions on improvement, is there something better I don't know about?
I usually run single dot fronts and sharpie blacked out rears, and am waiting on some fiber fronts to come in and revisit isosceles with that setup, but pretty sure it wont make a difference.
Thanks for listening, just send me the invoice.
I've never really asked anyone but this weekend had an incident that aggravated me enough to bring it up here.
Here's the deal.
Right handed, Worn contacts since 13 years old, 31 now, yearly eye exam always had the same prescription in both eyes. As far as I can tell, through all the non scientific tests for eye dominance, I have don't have one. The hole in the hand/paper brought to your eye test yields about a 50/50 result, and sometimes its funny to watch bc i'll get 6 inches from my nose and the lack of dominance is clearly visible as the paper stops and I go crosseyed.
I honestly don't know if vision per eye is what dictates the dominant eye, being I have the same prescription in both I would just assume that is a contributor. I have been shooting for 10 years, and because of the issue, I CANNOT SHOOT ISOSCELES. Having the gun centered or close to it in that stance puts my eyes constantly fighting each other and I notice when my left takes over and have to squint my left eye for a second to get the right to take back over until it happens all over again.
Due to all that I have always shot in what I knew as modified Weaver, I guess others call it Chapman but I didn't know that was a thing until a few years ago. I just did what was comfortable. Right arm locked straight, left just slightly bent, body slightly bladed but still mostly square to target, and cheek naturally against inside right bicep, push/pull and thumbs forward grip. Now when I do this, it's instinctive, from a draw it just all snaps into place, even from compressed ready, 10 years of shooting this way it's instinctive, and I have NEVER had an accuracy problem (at least not from stance, trigger control is another story). Having my right eye looking straight down my arm into the sights helps to keep my right eye in charge. Some days I do have to just barely squint my left to keep it that way. So tell me, AM I WRONG?? Any suggestions?
What led to this is post is I went to a Big Box outdoors store to look at a certain gun, I usually get it, point towards floor and index the sights a few times, and if there is an empty/safe area, I'll safety check again and point it towards a wall in my preferred stance, no high speed ninja stuff just casually, slowly, and safely, always treating it as if it were loaded, no muzzle sweep, etc. My whole goal is to see how naturally it points, if I can properly index the front post with minimal correction when punching out, etc.
Well this guy at a case next to me was watching me I guess and said "That's not a good position" I politely said "I know, but I have my reasons for it, thanks though" Well that wasn't enough and he went on to tell me all about what I needed to do, I let him drone on without even acknowledging him, just looking over the case. I asked to see another gun and when I went to raise it he decided to touch my left elbow into the locked position, I locked the slide, set the gun down, and in so many maybe more intense words said, don't touch me again, I appreciate your help, but did not ask nor do I need it, I have an eye dominance issue and shoot the way I shoot, and have never had a problem. (I have had to defend my stance a few times over the years so I'm used to it.) I guess it shocked him as he apologized, said he just likes to help new shooters. I let him know in a less than friendly way that I wasn't a new shooter, and did not need his assistance. I moved a few cases down and nothing else was said by either one of us.
In all the times I have been to ranges/gunstores, I have never once tried to correct or help someone unsolicited (unless I hear the word clip then it's like Tourette's and I cant help it). I am NO EXPERT in anything but I have been asked questions, and if wanted, will offer an opinion, but I am of the belief people in this day and age need to mind their own business a little more, and post a few less pictures of their meals on facebook.
With all that said, if that guy is a member here, I'm kinda sorry if I over reacted, but not really.
And to everyone else, Am I wrong in my philosophy on my stance or any opinions on improvement, is there something better I don't know about?
I usually run single dot fronts and sharpie blacked out rears, and am waiting on some fiber fronts to come in and revisit isosceles with that setup, but pretty sure it wont make a difference.
Thanks for listening, just send me the invoice.
