ok actulally im lookin for a 17 mag , OR a handgun , ied perfer a 40 but a .45 would be good too , its gonna be my first and im not lookin for the best or anything jus something ican carry say in the woods or if i get bored i can go shoot in the range in the back yard , im not looking to spend no more than $300 thats the budget , ied like an auto. but ied take a revolver next i guess, hell either ied be happy with , thanks , jake!