model 1 sales

[Hattrick 22]

Buddy of mine is looking to order all of his M4 components off of this site except the stripped lower. He is wanting an M4 chambered in 7.62 because he already has an sks and the ammo is cheaper blah blah blah the normal reasons why someone wants it in that round from what I've read. Nothing too new is why I approach it sarcastically. I don't own an M4 so I have nothing to tell him other than what I've read here.

I was hoping someone might have some info on the site or even the quality of the m4 they are selling. Any information would be helpful. I've told him guys always recommend m4 only in 5.56 for the most part and that colt,spikes,PSA , and Daniel defense are usually the ones that pop up most. Any help on the matter would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Bryan

 

[Hattrick 22]

Bump for am crew.

 

[Vanilla Gorilla]

I would avoid Model1 Sales at all cost.

 

[nola_]

I've never had an issue with Model 1 sales products, but I clean after shooting and normal maintainence.

 

[nola_]

I would avoid Model1 Sales at all cost.

Why is that?

 

[Cheesy Lasagna]

Quite a while back (over ten years ago) I ordered a build kit from Model1.
Took them a year and a lot of ******** promises from them to get my order, even though it was supposedly in stock when the order was placed.
The parts were standard mil-spec stuff, just about what you'd expect on the cheap.
Wouldn't give them my business again.
Besides, I can't imagine how long it would take them to get you an order today if things have not changed with their staff.

 

[Vanilla Gorilla]

Bad service, substandard part, garbage barrels, dishonest marketing etc.

 

[Hattrick 22]

Great thanks for the advice guys. I sent him the posts of your encounters with them.

If anyone else has had any experience with them please share I sent both the good and the bad.

 

[22lr]

Ive had great luck with model 1 sales. Had a 26" bull barrel upper for a while, and a 16" M4 profile. Both ran like champs and were just as accurate as any other barrel ive tired. Ive heard enough horror stories to not buy from them online, but if you can get your hands on one in person there is no reason to not buy it. There are so few differences in AR parts that brand matters very little.

 

[headspace]

Their wait time for a pistol upper was 8-10 weeks around the first of November. Ain't nobody got time for that

 

[nola_]

Their wait time for a pistol upper was 8-10 weeks around the first of November. Ain't nobody got time for that

That's good to know. Thanks.

 

[Vanilla Gorilla]

Ive had great luck with model 1 sales. Had a 26" bull barrel upper for a while, and a 16" M4 profile. Both ran like champs and were just as accurate as any other barrel ive tired. Ive heard enough horror stories to not buy from them online, but if you can get your hands on one in person there is no reason to not buy it. There are so few differences in AR parts that brand matters very little.

That's just not true there are large differences. And that's and oft repeated piece of misinformation. I'm fact it's a bold face lie Model 1 uses in their marketing. Just like with cars parts aren't parts.

 

[Cheesy Lasagna]

That's just not true there are large differences. And that's and oft repeated piece of misinformation. I'm fact it's a bold face lie Model 1 uses in their marketing. Just like with cars parts aren't parts.

Amen Brother.

 

[22lr]

That's just not true there are large differences. And that's and oft repeated piece of misinformation. I'm fact it's a bold face lie Model 1 uses in their marketing. Just like with cars parts aren't parts.

Care to link to something with more info, or share more info? I was of the opinion that very very few companies actually make anything. Isn't Model 1 just one of the companies that assembles the stuff that everyone else makes?

 

[sawman]

Bought a 24" bull upper (Douglas barrel ) from them at the Houston show in early 90's. Never a problem and good for. 7 moa at 200 yds.

 

[Vanilla Gorilla]

Most of the top flight manufacturers build their own small parts in house. There are some specialist companies that ,ale most of the mil-spec bolts for instance but Model 1 isn't using mil-spec parts. If you buy a Colt, BCM, LMT, DD, or even lesser quality rifles like RRA or DPMS most of the parts were made in house.

 

[Vanilla Gorilla]

Bought a 24" bull upper (Douglas barrel ) from them at the Houston show in early 90's. Never a problem and good for. 7 moa at 200 yds.

With what ammo and glass?

 

[22lr]

Most of the top flight manufacturers build their own small parts in house. There are some specialist companies that ,ale most of the mil-spec bolts for instance but Model 1 isn't using mil-spec parts. If you buy a Colt, BCM, LMT, DD, or even lesser quality rifles like RRA or DPMS most of the parts were made in house.

But isnt that the same with all of the budget companies?

 

[Vanilla Gorilla]

That most of them don't use mil-spec parts? Yes. I would wait for the Great Panic Buy of 2012 to subside and see if prices stabilize before I settled in Model 1.

 

[Hattrick 22]

Good points forwarded all to my friend for him to chew over.

Is there any 7.62 m4's out there that are 100% reliable?