Mosin Rear Peep... Whatcha' Think?

[Josh Smith]

Please excuse the surroundings and the picture quality. I did this at home, not the shop, in response to some concerns that the cocking piece will move on the x and y axis and not only the z axis. The first part demonstrates that I have a standard sear, while the second and third parts give different views of the striker knob dropping.

You will see that the cocking piece only travels in the direction it's supposed to.

Regards,

Josh

 

[dwr461]

http://theswissriflesdotcommessageboard.yuku.com/reply/66513/Aperture-sight-for-a-K31#reply-66513

I've never used a diopter sight. But these guys have used them extensively. This thread is about aperature sights for the K31 but most of this information would apply here as well. I've attached it b/c I was considering buying an aperature sight at one time and this thread effected my decision.

Dave

 

[JNieman]

I think putting a precision sight piece on a moving part is fallible.

ETA: I applaud the DIY and actually /trying/ out new ideas though, that's awesome. I think the sight placement is not great though. I question the ability to 'return to zero' after cycling. It may not be enough to see by-eye, but it doesn't take much to send your groups from 6" at 100 yards to 18" at 100 yards.

 

[Josh Smith]

I think putting a precision sight piece on a moving part is fallible.

ETA: I applaud the DIY and actually /trying/ out new ideas though, that's awesome. I think the sight placement is not great though. I question the ability to 'return to zero' after cycling. It may not be enough to see by-eye, but it doesn't take much to send your groups from 6" at 100 yards to 18" at 100 yards.

Hello,

I hope to be over my cold enough this weekend to get out and shoot it for "postable" targets.

I guess 60-70 years ago this was considered quite the modification.

M91 Mosin Nagant, Early Sporter

Regards,

Josh

 

[JNieman]

Dude, what the hell is this:

Tactical Green Fiber-Optic Adjustable Sight
$ 42.00 USD
Best for run'n'gun!


Since when is a world war 1 bolt action combloc rifle famed for it's lack of precision used for "Run'n'gun" ?

 

[Josh Smith]

Customers asked me to develop it, so I did. That's really the long and short of it. Only an idiot doesn't listen to his customers.

That sight is well-liked and works well.

Most Mosins will keep up with most Mausers in the precision department, by the way. Scoff if you'd like; both depend most on the shooter. Anything to make the rifle easier to shoot will increase precision.

The M39 is considered by many to be one of the finest bolt-action rifles of WWII. It's a Finn, but it's still a Mosin.

Josh

 

[dwr461]

I agree. If there's a market for it then fill that market and make money.

The Finn's certainly perfected the Mosin Nagant design in terms of accuracy. Also the Finn M39 is one of the finest Mosin Nagant's ever made. But the Mosin Nagant was out dated by WW2. The Russian's knew it. They were trying to come up with it's replacement. But it was rugged, dependable, and more accurate than the soldiers using it for the most part. But the main reason they were used in huge quantities was b/c the Russians could make a butt load of them in a hurry.

Anyway as a drop in part that some people might like I think it's ingenious. I looked through your website and saw many interesting products. Good luck to you with it.

Dave

 

[Josh Smith]

Hello,

I'm currently in the office/workshop. Orwell is on internet radio, and I'm filling sight orders.

I've also prototyped an interchangeable aperture rear peep. The first size is 3/32", which is my favorite size peep sight.

Pictures to follow later tonight or sometime tomorrow.

Regards,

Josh

 

[DBMJR1]

I notice you are a member here. http://www.hoosiergunclub.com/forums/index.php We share common friends, looking at your profile.

I see you are generous as well. http://www.hoosiergunclub.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9299

 

[Josh Smith]

Thank you, Sir.

 

[Josh Smith]

The existing ghost ring is about 0.125". This aperture shown is 0.094.

I don't really like the 0.094" as it just falls in between ghost ring and not-ghost-ring, and if I go to production, the standard aperture size will be about 0.063 or so to start with, anyway.

I still like the ghost ring as it holds the front sight hood centered perfectly, but I understand those who desire the smaller aperture and will be trying it out myself shortly, before I start making it.

Also included is a slightly improved lockup to return the cocking piece to perfect zero every time.

I'm not sure it's needed, but it's there as a redundancy.

I'm also trying to watch the complexity as complexity = weight = slower lock time, which we don't want.

Josh

 

[Leonidas]

I'm gonna risk asking a stupid question. Are you adapting a standard swivel stud? That was my first thought when I saw your sight.

 

[cnodie1]

I see it

 

[Quickdraw22]

I'm gonna risk asking a stupid question. Are you adapting a standard swivel stud? That was my first thought when I saw your sight.

Exactly what I thought when I saw it...

 

[Leonidas]

Exactly what I thought when I saw it...

Don't get me wrong. I think that's a brilliant idea, if that's what you're doing.

 

[Josh Smith]

And sorry for the pics above not showing up. Photobucket is having problems with their Pro accounts, which I have. The pics should be back up shortly, according to them.

Regards,

Josh