I figured it would go like this.I'm not misleading anyone. I'm quoting the law and the ATF. If you want to interpret "non-licensed residents from another state cannot acquire from or dispose of firearms to non-licensed individuals" as non-licensed residents from another state are free to acquire from or dispose of firearms to non-licensed individuals, you go right ahead. You asked someone to give you the law that said you could not and the law was given to you. And you were show the guidelines from the ATF backing up what the law says. The quoted law wasn't some rumor for people to blindly follow. It was from the U.S. Code posted on the ATF site and copied in this thread and clarified by the ATF's pamphlet. I don't need to call a FFL. When it comes to the laws that will be enforced by the ATF, I believe I'll listen to the ATF.
"other than a plain old average Joe gun owner that happens to live in another state. I give him cash, he hands me the gun."
a plain old average Joe = non-licensed individual
give him cash, he hands me the gun = acquire from
I = non-licensed residents from another state
The ATF described the exact scenario you are saying is legal.
I cannot give a plain old average Joe cash and have him hand me the gun according to the ATF.
Now you come back in here, again, and say it's legal and anyone who says otherwise can show you the law. You've been shown the law and you can (should be able to) read the clarification from the ATF. Now before you start asking for the law again, why not explain how the provided law does not address your scenario.
Go find a FFL and ask them to explain to you when and why it’s legal to buy and sell, face to face from/to private owners across state lines without any FFL involvement.
As far as the ATF, clarification and scenarios, haven’t we all seen how they interpret the law enough to know that there will be lots of doubt and grey areas? I will say once again, there are no laws on the books that would prevent me from doing like I said. That’s the way it is and that’s why I’m imploring you to run it by a FFL. If there’s anyone that would know whether it’s legal or not, it would be a FFL. Can we at least agree on that?
Now, if you’re frustrated with me, remember how you asked if I was advocating breaking a federal law by asking a question.
Again, no Federal law preventing private sale as I described. ATF does not write and pass or declare firearms laws, they enforce the laws that congress passes.
I have a few numbers for FFL holders in the state if you want them.
As far as what laws and or ATF explanations you’ve provided, I can’t answer for any gun show guidelines and I never said anything about selling or buying at a gunshow in or out of the state. That’s very informative stuff tho and we appreciate the info.
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