How cpr would have gone, best case - crack crack crack crack, defib, tube, painful recovery, PE, SCD
In seriousness, I dont think I fault a health professional for not carrying out CPR on an almost 90 y/o that isnt under their care, though the actual phone conversation sounds a bit strange
It should ultimately the family's call- but I sure as hell wouldn't place anyone in that facility.
And if you heard the actual 911 call, it sounded like the "nurse" had been sampling some of the painkillers onhand, anyway. Of course, that could be legal in CA.
Half the time its the family who wont put a DNR on a patient who needs one. When there is zero quality of life they need to step up. I see what amounts to a skeleton in a bed being kept alive only with a vent and some meds so often. Sometimes the family just needs to accept that the person is better off being taken off life support and just being on pallative care.
Beat me to the comment, lol.Wow it only took until Post #5
Beat me to the comment, lol.
At first I was kind of shocked, but after a little thought, I was angry because I made two big assumptions:
--That CPR would help or even had a chance.
--That they wouldn't do more harm than good.
Both are pretty clearly false. Take those assumptions out and they're left with "Well that sucks, but whaddaya gonna do?" Just because she's at an "assisted living" room doesn't mean they can have an RN or M.D. on hand for things like this, fully equipped with all the tools and items necessary for preventing death as often as possible. And most families of those in 'assisted living' care likely aren't paying what it would take to keep those types of people on staff 24/7.
Assisted living facility is different than independent living facility. This did not happen at a assisted facility.
My mistake. Independent living makes it even more appropriate that she/they shouldn't expect saviors on-hand.Assisted living facility is different than independent living facility. This did not happen at a assisted facility.
Wouldnt be a hard to choice for me....If I had clear direction by my employer not to perform CPR I would not. My priority is my job and family. And Im more than positive when she/they signed up to live there it is clearly defined and they/she agreed. It may be "unethical" or "immoral"...but illegal,nope. For once I do think FOX NEWS fumbled on this one
Illegal? Yes in some states. As a health care provider you have a duty to act that CANNOT be over ridden by a company policy. I don't know about California law.